Pl search the web for "Animal Worship" to understand how the system of wroship originated. Various forms of worships we see today is the continuation of the system of wroship of the primitive tribes thousands of years back.
Despite the tremendous growth in science and technology, a good majority of people want to believe in some "supreme creator" and such notions.
Another important point is that almost every religion teaches its followers how to better a life here-after, none of them are teaching how to live life on planet earth!
Also search the web for "Actual Freedom - the third alternative" This is an alternative to organized religions. It will definitely enrich your knowledge about the basic traits of humanbeings.
RE:@ All believers (irrespective of religion)
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 04:33 PM Permalink
JGN,
with all due respect... the process of removing the "ego" and the "self" is in itself an approach which is advocated in the so-called "primitive delusions"...
it is this ego and self which has been the subject of various schools of thought, dvaitam, advaitam and vishishtadvaitam...
god is the source of everything pleasant.. that is the basis of this thought process... that is why cleanliness (of the body and mind), respect, honesty etc. are all considered virtues...
"vaishnavas" generally abstain from using the word "I" ("Naan", "Ennudaya" -> tamil).. instead they use "Adiyen"... the ego is submissive and receptive... this is a simple example of how thoughts and actions reflect upon the mind and consequently on happiness...
keeping the subject of god aside, i will agree with you that as "I"ness diminishes, more the peace of mind... two great examples are shri. ramanujacharya and shri. ramana maharishi...
so i would not agree with your statement that religions do not teach a person how to live... rather we have grossly misunderstood it and live in a piled-upon layer of perceptions...
RE:RE:@ All believers (irrespective of religion)
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 04:44 PM Permalink
@JGN,
you know, the more i try to control my emotions/reactions without following the basic requisite, it becomes more severe...
so what is the basic requisite?, well ego is not that easy to let go... somebody says "You are good", then my ego gets a little boost... another says, "you are handsome", my ego soars...!!!
so why does this happen... well one explanation could be that our mind is a system of VALUES-PERCEPTION-ATTITUDE-REACTION... i think the subject which you have mentioned also has a reasoning along these lines...
the more we fix our mind to a set pattern, the difficult it is for us to be free of it... then does it mean that we should have no value system at all? why cant we? then again we are apprehensive... if there were no value system and everyone become blissfully happy, who will administer? for to carry on daily routines, a certain regulation should be made... then again we introduce frameworks for life.... we are repeating the process...!!!!
for the world to survive... there has to be a healthy balance of selfless ego and materialistic ego... and for this we differentiate "selfless ego" as actions towards god and "materialistic ego" as actions towards karma (or duty)...
these are just sscattered thoughts which am penning down on seeing your thoughtful post...
RE:@ All believers (irrespective of religion)
by JGN on Mar 23, 2008 04:36 PM Permalink
Dear Sesh, pl visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the third alternative" It is very informative.
RE:RE:@ All believers (irrespective of religion)
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
Dear JGN, i have gone through the site after you gave the info...
RE:@ All believers (irrespective of religion)
by JGN on Mar 23, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
Why are you so desperate? Your reply is irrelevant to the message posted by me.
