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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 08:29 PM   Permalink
Hanuman, I wish instead of writing so much of blah blah, you had studied Islam properly.

I was a non Muslim who studied Islam with open mind. I was so impressed with it that everything else looks immature before Islam to me. I am an engineer BTW

So broadly speaking, world is made up of two types on non-muslims ...those who learn Islam properly, and embrace it....and those who never try to, and only spread false rumours about it

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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 08:34 PM   Permalink
Dear Wahaj Faridy, the proof of pudding is in eating. Only a mentally deranged person will embrace Islam today after seeing all the turmoil in the Muslim countries the world over. Is there a single Islamic country, where democracy has succeeded (don't talk about Turkey - they are more European than Muslim).

Can you englighten those who are unaware like me why you chose Islam? Was it the lure of having four wi-ves????

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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 08:43 PM   Permalink
If you study history of last 100 years, you will learn Islamic world had far too democratic a system before WEST attacked it, and created a bunch of WarLords / criminals run Tyrannies

Ever heard of Anwar Pasha, Bashir pasha !!

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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 08:46 PM   Permalink
I do not care for any of them. I live in 21st century and do not intend to follow what has been prescribed for the inhabitants of 7th century Arabia. It is as simple as that.

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by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 08:50 PM   Permalink
Mr. Wahaj Faridy, what is your subject for Engineering (i.e. Electrical, Mechenical, Civil, Computer, etc)?

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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 08:34 PM   Permalink
Dear Wahaj Faridy, the proof of pudding is in eating. Only a mentally deranged person will embrace Islam today after seeing all the turmoil in the Muslim countries the world over. Is there a single Islamic country, where democracy has succeeded (don't talk about Turkey - they are more European than Muslim).

Can you englighten those who are unaware like me why you chose Islam? Was it the lure of having four wi-ves????

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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 08:39 PM   Permalink
Unless you are a gullible that West controlled Media preys upon, you can not miss the great Service Islam and Muslims have done to the world....and so great Disservice those so called followers of Jesus have done.

Problem is that you guys have little knowledge of history. So you do not know who did what in history except for what propaganda machines feed you.

Truth is that ISLAM Served Humanity while West Sucked humanity hollow !


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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by satpath on Mar 20, 2008 08:47 PM   Permalink
My dear Engineer Sahib,
Please answer the following honestly

1)Do you mean to say that violent protests are justified for publishing Mohammed's cartoon

2)Treatment of minorities and Jajeya tax is justified ?

3) The Islamic Jannat offers more than 50 hours to each man whereas it is silent for woman ?

4) Theree Woman's testimony is equivalent to one man's testimony? If yes then Woman is not equivalent to a man in human rights

5) Does not Islam supports forced conversion ?
and if not then can a person change his religion at his will in islam



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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 08:58 PM   Permalink
1. Publishing Derrogatory cartoons of Prophet is evil, and if west persists in this EVIL, All Muslims will ure fight this Evil and establish Justice.

2. Jazia is only 4% tax. which other system imposes so little tax on any of its subjects

3. Life in hereafter involves similar companionship as here in this world. This is true of both Man and Women in Jannah

4. Responsibilites assigned to men and women for success are the same. Hence Men and Women are equal in Islam. Testimony etc are issues related to social model in which people live. It does not decise equality issue

5. Islam never supports forced conversion. Muslims do not convert out of Islam becaue there are only animalist idols, and Father/Mother/Aunte Gods outside it



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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by Vasanth Srinivas on Mar 20, 2008 10:44 PM   Permalink
"animalist idols, and Father/Mother/Aunte Gods " - much more better than following a mad mullah.

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  RE:RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 09:03 PM   Permalink
>>>>>>>>>Men and Women are equal in Islam..........have you read The Koran? A woman is entitled to only half that of her brother out of her father's property!!!!!!!!!

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by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 09:06 PM   Permalink
All the duties and responsibilities assigned to women are same as those to Men for success in this world. That establishes Woman as equal to man.

Woman gets less in inheritence but then she gets Meher that man does not get. So on the wole both are at par in this model

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by Beachy Babes on Mar 20, 2008 09:16 PM   Permalink
Dear Wahaj Faridy,
In response to your reply, point 5 above, I just want you to think with an independent mind.

In Islam, if someone converts from Islam to other religion, he is killed.

If one has the freedom to convert to Islam, why cannot he get the freedom to convert to another religion later if he wants to??

Is it not mere hypocrisy in Islam?



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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 09:06 PM   Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>Life in hereafter involves similar companionship as here in this world..........there is no life here-after. Every thing ends here. Life on planet earth is the only thing known to mankind. Enjoy that to the fullest extent possible without harming others. And also don't blow yourself up or harm others for rewards in an imaginary life here-after.

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by Wahaj Faridy on Mar 20, 2008 09:10 PM   Permalink
JGN....after having seen such a vivid world, you think there can not be another like it unless you saw it !! How foolish !

A kid from a village came to city, and saw a beautiful Shopping Mall with funpark that almost looked like dreamland to him. Now he insists, "There can not be another like it, anywhere...no chance!!"

How foolish !


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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by satpath on Mar 20, 2008 09:27 PM   Permalink
My Dear please say something about these verses from Koran . Still you think that Islam is the first wonder of the world ?

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.

Sura (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below.

Sura (9:12) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" This confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Sura (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."


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  RE:Muslims are Strange!!!
by JGN on Mar 20, 2008 08:49 PM   Permalink
Dear satpath, Allah is most merciful. He has granted women the rare opportunity of watching their husbands de-flower 72 virigins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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