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Is there any Supreme Creator???
by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 12:27 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Evolution of Man: The earth is a planet in the solar system. The earth came into being about 4500 million years ago. At first, it was in the gaseous state. Gradually, over a period, it solidified and land formed. Water bodies developed on land. Algae-like plants developed in water. At about this time, unicellular micro-organisms were formed. Animals on earth evolved in stages from these unicellular micro-organisms. The process of development of the living world %u2013 from unicellular living beings to man %u2013 is known as evolution. This evolution has taken place over millions of years.

Today's man evolved in stages from ape %u2013 a monkey closely resembling man. The two main stages in this evolution are Ho-mo Ere-ctus and 'Ho-mo Sap-iens'. The word Ho-mo indicates man and Ere-ctus indicates %u2018with upright spine%u2019. Ho-mo sap-iens means the wise man. At this stage, he began to make fire and devise stone implements.

PP-14, History of Ancient India, Standard Six, published by Maharashtra State Bureau of Text Book Production and Curriculum Research, Pune (Education Department Sanction No. Pra-Shi-Sa/2007-08/manjuri 505 (9) Date: 8.1.2007



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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 12:42 AM   Permalink
Mr. Sanjay, I had reproduced from a Govt text book. Do you think that is a joke? This is what we teach our children (irrespective of religion).

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by Yaqoot Mir on Mar 21, 2008 01:03 AM   Permalink
Thank you for that statement, thats exactly how the Koran claims the panets were created, its not a discovery from Scientists, its merely confirmation of what the Koran says and the bible is silent on. Chalk one up for the great book called the Koran.

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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 01:05 AM   Permalink
Can you quote the exact Sura from The Quran?

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by on Mar 21, 2008 12:33 AM   Permalink
the gaseous state was created by lord vishnu, which was mentioned in ramayan and mahabarat. after the invasion of mougals n brits they tore that particular page from those books.

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by Exposse on Mar 21, 2008 12:39 AM   Permalink
Your analysis really took some stress out of me .hahahahaha

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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 12:37 AM   Permalink
A big farting????

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by on Mar 21, 2008 12:39 AM   Permalink
whatelse u expect?

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by Demo-crazy on Mar 21, 2008 12:38 AM   Permalink
I think one can ask endless 'how' or 'why' questions - in search of answers.
How did these microorganisms form? How did they get the life force in them? Is pure chemical combination or breakdown enough to say one can induce life into something? What really gives the power to life - to think, to act, to do good or bad? If it were to be purely at animal level, why are we better? Why no other life form has not evolved further?

I am not sure if we have answers for all these questions. But the search must continue. There is something unexplained force (call it God or whatever you like) that energizes all life form.

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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 12:46 AM   Permalink
Yes, there are unanswered questions but as far as an atheist is concerned, they do not attach any divinity to that. Sooner or later, the scientists will find an answer to that. Not too long ago, just a handful of scientists believed that the earth is round and it goes around the sun. But even a student of 3rd standard knows the fact.

Btw I do not have any quarrel with the believers. I know for sure that belief is like a crutch for them. But don't brings the go/gods on to the streets and auction them.

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by Mo Pirate on Mar 21, 2008 12:53 AM   Permalink
@JGN

Scientists have to explain first how and by whom Matter is created. How and by whom energy is created. Yes science know matter can be converted to energy and vice versa. But science failed to explain the origin of matter or energy in this Universe.

I advice you to read the book "A Brief History of time" by Stephan Hawkings. You can read the books of Carl Sagan also.

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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 01:02 AM   Permalink
Mo Pirate, can any of the agents of "the supreme creator" tell me who created him? If the creator can create himself, the earth and every thing in the universe can create itself. It is the same question "which came first egg or chicken?" The believers do not have any satisfactory answer so are the atheists. We are at least helpeful that a satisfactory answer would be found one day.

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by Demo-crazy on Mar 21, 2008 01:12 AM   Permalink
The concept of "Anant" something that has no end is useful. There was always something and the churn kept on happening. There is transformation, but not total destruction.

So the matter and energy conversion falls nicely into this concept of Anant propounded by Krishna in Bhagwad Gita. (it is altogether another matter, whether one wants to call Krisna as a God).

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by Mo Pirate on Mar 21, 2008 01:14 AM   Permalink
@JGN

You will never get the satisfactory answer, neither the science nor the religions can answer your question.

An entity out side this Universe only can answer that question. Some people(very very few) calls it God.

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by Demo-crazy on Mar 21, 2008 01:07 AM   Permalink
JGN, knowledge will always enrich us as the search continues.

I too agree with the wording of crutch to some extent. Not all can live by the concept of omnipresent form of Supreme force or power(which probably does not ask one worship. we do it for our own ability to be do gooders, our own well being).

There are evil minds in every religion who bring the idols or their concepts on the streets and pollute. You cannot easily stop them.

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by JGN on Mar 21, 2008 01:16 AM   Permalink
So let every one believe in whatever they want (and leave people like me free not to believe in any supreme creator and such notions)

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