In the Name of God, the Compassionate,, the Merciful
WHOSO believe not, and prevent others from the way of God %u2013 their works will He cause to miscarry;
But whoso believe, and do things that are right, and believe in what hath been sent down to MUHAMMAD %u2013 for it is the truth from their Lord - their sins will He cancel, and dispose their hearts aright.
This-because the infidels followed vanity, while those who believe, followed the truth from their Lord. Thus to men doth God set forth their likenesses.
When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters.
And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings, till the war hath laid down its burdens. Thus do. Were such the pleasure of God, he could himself take vengeance upon them but He would rather prove the one of you by the other. And whoso fight for the cause of God, their works he will not suffer to miscarry
He will vouchsafe them guidance and dispose their hearts aright
He will bring them into the Paradise, of which he hath told them
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by dot on Mar 12, 2008 01:15 PM Permalink
krishan to arjun (bhagwad gita ) oh arjun how can such impure thoughts enter you. u are a kshatriya , kill those who oppose truth and dont belive in it (kafir) even if they are your blood relatives .. Now tell me how is it wrong if god tells people to fight for truth and justice ...????? NOTE - I dont mean any disrespect to gita or vedas ,,, although u pri&ck worshipers have never read them
RE:RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by Palani on Mar 12, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
satyavati takes a saint on her boat and involves in illegal sex and get a son. He is vedvyas. after that satyavati marries another kinf and gets one son from him. he grows and marries two girls and dies. satyavati asks her first son born from illegas sex to mate with her two daughter-in-laws and they get one son each they are pandu and drudarashrt
RE:RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:18 PM Permalink
No sane hindu claims that what is written in Mahabharata (Gita is a part of the same) is a devine revealation and cannot be changed for all time to come! It is just an epic (story).And of course Krishna is not asking to kill all non-believers!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
Sultan, you are mixing what is written in a sotry with historical facts. Mohammed was a historical person who lived nearer to our time whereas Mahabharata (Gita is a part of the same) is a story. Your mad-rassa education is insufficient to differentiate between the two.
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:01 PM Permalink
Believers! If ye help God, God will help you, and will set your feet firm
But as for the infidels, let them perish and their works shall God bring to naught
This-because they were averse from the command which God sent down; Fruitless, therefore, shall their works become!
Have they not journeyed through the land, and seen what hath been the end of those who flourished before them? God brought destruction on them and the like of this doth await the infidels.
This-because God is the protector of those who believe, and because the infidels have no protector.
Verily God will bring those who believe, and o the things that are right, into the Gardens, beneath whose shades the river flow but they who believe not, take their fill and eat as beasts eat! And their dwelling place the fire:
And how many cities were mightier in strength than thy City, which hath thrust three forth. We destroyed them and there was none to help them
Shall he who followeth the clear teachings of his Lord be as he, the evil of whose doings hath been made to seem good to him, or like those who follow their own lu-sts?
RE:RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 01:10 PM Permalink
the above veses were revealed at the battle for Badr... and the above verses applies for all the opressors.
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
The Brain, who was waging the "Battle of Badr" Was it Allah or Mohammed? Read the above verses. It is very clear that Mohammed was talking to his followers (It is not the worlds of a "most merciful Allah")!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:32 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the above veses were revealed at the battle for Badr...............is was not a revealation of "the most merciful Allah" but a cunning Mohammed!!!!!!!! There was no wireless technology in the Arabian peninsula in the 7th centrury!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:23 PM Permalink
Palani, it seems that you are brain-dead!!!!!!!!! You cannot understand what is the difference between a book the Muslims call a devine revealation which cannot be altered and something wirtten in a sotry (Mahabharata).
The author of Mahabharata was partial to one family. According to the principles of modern civil laws, the Padavas were not even entitled to rule as none of them were Pandu's sons and Pandu himself was ruling the Country on behalf of Dritarashtra who was blind.
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by Palani on Mar 12, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
does your live brain understands what Geeta said %u201CConsidering your specific duty as a Kshatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles, so there is no need for hesitation.%u201D
%u201CO Partha, happy are the Kshatriya to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the door of the heavenly planets%u201D.
%u201CIf however, you do not fight this religious war, then you will certainly incur sin, for neglecting your duties, and thus lose your reputation as a fighter%u201D. [Bhagavad Gita 2:31-33]
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
There are no terrorists anywhere in the world. All muslims have to be "fundamentalists" as per advice of the great "Dr. Zakir Naik"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 01:43 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>however, you do not fight this religious war...........there was no religion in Vedic times (when Mahabharata was written). It talks about fighting the unjust. What is just and unjust is subjective and aslo will depned on "time and space".
The sword in the hands of Kshatriya was meant for protection of the weaker section. It was not meant for getting "rewards in an imaginary life here-after"!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:The Glorious Quran says:
by Palani on Mar 12, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
@jgn, what do you want to talk about? Religion, preaching or reward.
What is swarg and narg? the wrong doers in this world willl definitely suffer in hell irrespective of the religion. you dont know me. if you address me as a terrorists is it acceptable? you hear someone say that palani is a terrorist. do you spread this to others without verifying the truth? if you do so you are a sinner. how many of you know about the terrorists?
