The PM saying "people of a particular community have first right to country's resources" is most unfortunate. The supreme court should ask him to withdraw it or disown it publicly. It can even encourage people from other communitiies to convert to the preferred community for first-right benefits.
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by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 01:28 AM Permalink
In the 21st century, there is no point fooling people by uttering words like secular, communal, fascist, fundamentalist so on and so forth. Each of us have to find our own freedom and be responsible to excel in talent, skills, knowledge, action, expansion and thus find our own inner fulfillment, strength and growth, pursuing real happiness, truth by excelling in work, life, sports communications and various other professions to constantly develop our body and mind, emotions and intellect. There is no point being jingoistic and romantic and deriving any kind of false egoistic value by associating oneself with this person or that religion. Neither archaic religion, nor pseudo modernity can take us anywhere. One can learn various lessons of what works and what doesn't from history. But dynamics of life keep changing. Hair-splitting arguments are a waste of energy. Every developed country in the world is secular have one-law, uniform civil code & gender equality.
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by spindoc on Mar 13, 2008 01:34 AM Permalink
Clear my Mind now..Is it wrong to feel proud of the individual who has shaped this 21st century you are harping about..If not for him and countless ones we would have barbaric too..look at our neighbours (bangla,Pak) bombing the sh*t out of each other....You are able to write about freedom becuase of those very own individual whom people are associating and feeling jingoistic and romatic about..
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by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 01:48 AM Permalink
The romance does not last unless it is maintained, strengthened and made better generation after generation. Agreed, India is secular and democratic because 80% are Hindus. Secularism & democracy are the foundations of Hinduism. Caste saved India from dark days by providing some basic purpose in life. Religion is One and should be limited to Human Character and Human Values with One Common Law encouraging people to develop their Body and Mind, Emotions and Intellect, Creativity and Consciousness. The caste is a scientific concept but has been abused and distorted by confused people. It basically means that to live life intelligently we need to effectively balance the 4-forces within - Thinker, Protector, Economist, Worker - and also while governing society. This is all based on natural human intelligence. The roots of the ancient Indian philosophy which goes by the name Hinduism is actually secular, logical and universal. The idols symbolize objectives in life: Shiva (freedom), Durga (Strength), Saraswati (Knowledge), Lakshmi (Wealth), Ganesh (Wisdom). Life is God. These Goddesses are not really goddesses per se but symbolize the objectives of the pursuit of human life. All civilized societies in the world practice this in principle as it is the natural & true meaning of 'secularism' & 'humanism' followed by all. Check out the book, A Religion Called 'Human', for more details. Things are simple, we complicate. When are we going to clean our distortions and be aggressively uni
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by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 01:51 AM Permalink
BJP/RSS on the other hand should not waste time in useless fights and arguments, temples and yatras, but rather transform themselves into aggressive humanism focussing on clarity, unity, one-law, gender equality, uniform civil code, mind-body development, self-discipline and taking the focus of society more into performance and productivity to transform people into thinking and progressing highly functional aggressive human beings, which can make the lazy Indian commies wakeup in life!!!
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by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 02:20 AM Permalink
When the armies of Islam reign and murder rape pillage destruction was upon us. There was no caste then. We have even got a memorial to our fathers genocide - Hindu Kush - just to remind us for eternity what happen to us when we were once weak.
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by Tom on Mar 13, 2008 02:50 AM Permalink
It's necessary to be powerful and humanitarian at the same time, and not just humanitarian.
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by spindoc on Mar 13, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
Its all esy for you say Religion is one Human Values this and that.. Casteism was based on 4 tenants of what man should do based on his capabilites.. I agree with you ..but the reality is it does not work like that. In the dog eat dog world a man is always trying to one up over the other and at evry opputunity he uses all possible ways to be fittest otherwise called as Survival of the fittest.. Evn used by the politicians..This is what is happening to the 21st century India..Instead of being philosophical ..if you have a soln on how to overcome this..you can continue further else bottle up all your emaotions and go to sleep as nothing is going to change..When the people who have been entrusted to do the change dont want to do it who are we..If you are so much interested to see a better India devoid of BJP/RSS why dont you try to be part of the power..sorry ..go sleep..
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by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 02:15 AM Permalink
This is the problem with you, you are always in a reactionary mode, with no rational thought ... How did you assume I am against BJP/RSS ... I am asking them to become a more potent force
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by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 01:48 AM Permalink
I agree with you- but you seem to forget people, unseen for the matter of fact and even unrewarded are doing a great job defending - the right you assume now for granted. Our ancestors assume the same thing before the muslim onslaught and following hindu genocide. In an ideal world you are correct- in this world the weak according to the Theory of evolution just dies out.
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by rajendra K on Mar 13, 2008 02:46 AM Permalink
In US this is called racism. This is nothing but excluding the other communities from the development.
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by spindoc on Mar 13, 2008 01:27 AM Permalink
Its all political gimmick...Wait till the election is over...It will not be a surprise if the politicians put our country for lease to reach power..
