RE:Sridhar's text
by sridhar gorantla on Jun 18, 2008 03:18 AM Permalink
universal Truth cannot be changed, but only had to be followed, and adhered by every one of aevery religion or land. no exceptions. Hence copy and paste.
RE:Sridhar's text
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 18, 2008 03:22 AM Permalink
good answer .. univer truth can never be changed .. however our understanding of it does evolve
RE:Sridhar's text
by sridhar gorantla on Jun 18, 2008 03:26 AM Permalink
So, you mean to say that there is no one who had already unraveled the universal truth and universal laws? You or me may not have a complete understanding of them, but there are others who are. They had freed themselves from the clutches of the nature and the maya and freed them from the diseases, death etc bondages of the nature.
There are Lord Jesus Christ like or Lord Krishna like saints in India in every generation to lead the world in the correct direction when needed.
RE:Sridhar's text
by Global Hindu on Jun 18, 2008 03:31 AM Permalink
I totally respect the sages and saints who realized GOD. But why should I trust them totally. Yes, I am not making any effort today or not in a position to make efforts .
I am not against learning from teachers but do not want to trust them 100%. I am just saying that my own experience makes me believe 100%. Saints and sages are the people we get information but at the end it should be I that should jugde the truth.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 18, 2008 03:35 AM Permalink
hmm good one .. but a judge can be one who has already realized the Truth. .. this topic is quite sublime .. its tought to give it exact words... needs lot of soul searching before we even realize what we are looking for !! atleast thats my exp.
RE:Sridhar's text
by sridhar gorantla on Jun 18, 2008 03:38 AM Permalink
You are right. There are certain criteria to either accept or to either consider a person as an enlightened person or to be treated as a true teaching, as per vedic texts. Like the terms Savikalpa Samadhi, Nirvikalpa samadhi, Jeevan Mukta, Para mukta etc stages. Of course, we cannot trust blindly every tom, dick andharry, who takes the name of GOD, by mere external senses, but had no real experiences of GOD, or for that matter had not freed self from the clutches of the nature and its bondages.
Please read the book "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Swami Paramahansa Yogananda or his other commentary on Bhagavad Geetha in the book "GOD TALKS WITH ARJUNA".
You will get more details on the experience based spirituality.
Swami Ramakrishna Paramahamsa says that: Knwoledge obtained by way of reading books is GOOD. Knowledge obtained by of a person who had an experience of the things is BETTER. Knowledge obtained by way of self experiences is BEST.
This above was especially true in the path of Spirituality. Holy scrpitures and books can help the people as sign posts, like the way sign posts help while we are on the road journey from a source to destination.
RE:Sridhar's text
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 18, 2008 03:31 AM Permalink
So, you mean to say that there is no one who had already unraveled the universal truth and universal laws? .. NO .. I just said that in the context that you seem to saying whatever you are posting is the Universal Truth ... it may be true .. but there is much more beyond it.. is all I's trying to say :).. as they, spirituality is a journey and never an aspired destination.
RE:Sridhar's text
by sridhar gorantla on Jun 18, 2008 03:44 AM Permalink
Sorry. Moon was a moon for the planet earth, and not the palnet itself.
My point is that, long before Galileo, in other part of the world, universal secrets, including that of the craation and the creator are already known to them. They even knew about the atoms and molecules etc.
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by Global Hindu on Jun 18, 2008 03:35 AM Permalink
well said Pritish. Wee will never know the truth. We will go towards it.
An example is the in olden days people belived that earth was the center. Everyone belived it to be ultimate truth but Galileo proved that it is wrong. Both ideas contribute to the journey of relization of truth.
My point is that truth is relative not absolute for human beings.
RE:RE:Sridhar's text
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 18, 2008 03:39 AM Permalink
"well said Pritish. Wee will never know the truth. We will go towards it. " .. we may or may not ..yes we should go towards it...but I feel it is quite intelligent of a man to desire to know !
RE:RE:Sridhar's text
by sridhar gorantla on Jun 18, 2008 03:40 AM Permalink
Dear Global Hindu, you look like you are ignorant of the fact that , long before Galileo, there was an established fact that Earth moves round the sun, sun was surrounded by the palnets, moon was one such planet for earth in Vedic times itself. Which means, that there is a possibility that there is a possibility of knowing the ultimate truth before as well.
RE:Sridhar's text
by Practicalman on Jun 18, 2008 04:33 AM Permalink
U can get these knowledge from Quran...which describes earth, son ,moon are revolving in their own orbit, Sun has its own light and moon having reflected light. Infact whatever question you pose ...Quran has some references or answer to it. Our ignorance and instigated hate keeps you away from these knowledge. If you are a true to the search of knowledge...do read Quran and judge itself.
RE:Sridhar's text
by Global Hindu on Jun 18, 2008 03:24 AM Permalink
Wonderful. Science, daily experiences, discussions with others should make our believe eveolve. We dont know the universal truth yet but we are getting there slowly.
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by rajesh pandey on Jun 18, 2008 03:56 AM Permalink
I'm with you along with a lot of other Hindu friends. We have some more constructive thought. Please do so and open a website. A lot of people including new generation and old, don't even know what exactly the Hindu religion is. They are confused with no direction. Our religious books have been interpreted wrongly and other forces are dividing us. This is the time to wake up and be unite under a peaceful religion.
