Does people of India not realise this now that it is no longer a "step to uplift the weaker section of society". It has now become an easier way to progress...
Remove the caste system and caste benefits - -
instead help people on the basis of their income...
Do what every developed country (and sane people) do... dont promote caste system mentality...
RE:Non Sense
by iamyourfather on Jun 10, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Reservation has never been a step to uplift the weaker section of society. It is social justice, which people like you should try to understand.
RE:Non Sense
by Lucky B on Jun 10, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
What is your definition of social justice? Is it snatching job/seat from the qualified person and giving to unqualified or less qualified person makes up social justice?
For me social justice is everybody gets equal chance to go up.
Do you think there should be reservation for Paswans/Laloos/Mulayams' son? Or reservation should be for poor dalits?
RE:Non Sense
by iamyourfather on Jun 10, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
Yes creamy layer must go. Is it not that rich only corner the massive share of jobs in General category? That is bound to happen in other categories also like SC/ ST/ OBC. Your concept of equal chance is just an utopia. It has nothing to do with real world. Ambani in business and Khans in bollywood give equal chance to a new comer in their respective fields? India is an extremely poor country and it has very few opportunities available against a large number of perfectly qualified aspirants. To facilitate representation of all sections of society is social justice.
RE:Non Sense
by iamyourfather on Jun 10, 2008 05:53 PM Permalink
single general cut off point is a cleaver trick to perpetuate hegemony of upper castes forever. That is what you want but such tricks are not going to work now, sadly for you.
RE:Non Sense
by All Right on Jun 10, 2008 12:55 PM Permalink
By your own definition and admission, why do you need the reservation for OBC then? In fact, all others ST, SC etc. need their cut off increased to equal that of General..
RE:Non Sense
by iamyourfather on Jun 10, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
Cut off marks in OBC reservation is a shade less than General Category. In that case, do you support OBC reservation?
RE:Non Sense
by All Right on Jun 10, 2008 01:07 PM Permalink
And making my point for me... ;-)
Answer me, if OBC cut off is very near General. And SC/ST cutoff is way below there in doldrums, why in the name of God's good world not merge all cutoffs to one single General point?
RE:Non Sense
by harry na na on Jun 10, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
Social Justice - - - ??? for something that was done ages back and ended 50 yrs back, you are providing 'unreal' benefits now?? that doesnt make sense...
before independence india was ruled by british.. they killed so many indians.. lets put them to justice now... does that makes sense??/
Try to get what im saying... I never said there are people who do not need it.. there are sections and castes who have really suffered .. but its not fair to give benefits to everyone who happne to share the same name...
benefits or what you call "Social Justice" should only be given to people who deserve it - - and i.e judge on the basis on income...
my dhobi was a pandit - his kids deserves benefit more than those of a SC/ST IAS officer...