RE:Imran questions for you
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 01:30 AM Permalink
Let me give you my views...Based on my knowledge of my religion.
It is the reponsibility of every Muslim (Including me) to spread the message of god. I can do that through speeches, conduct, business conduct, ethics, etc.
That is where my responsibility ENDS. It is NOT the responsibility of Muslims to convert others to Islam. That depends on the individual to accept or reject Islam.
The mistake that people like Bin-Laden (he has other grievs about the middle east) and people like you make is that you start playing god.
You extend your responsibility from only spreading the message to forcing people into accepting the message. That is a HUGE difference.
There should never be forceful conversion of non-Muslims to Muslim.
I hope I am clear in my statement. That is the way I see it. Other scholars may see it different and I disagree with them. And I am not obligated to follow them.
RE:Imran questions for you
by deepak on Jun 06, 2008 02:01 AM Permalink
Your very premise of spreading the word of God is bigotry and fascism...it gives you an inherent right to enforce what you think is God..if u reserve that right then the other person also has to right to rebut your claims and expose Islam for being the fraud it is...but do you stick by it? Muslims will issue fatwa for killing any person who does that..this is what makes Islam more of a fascist force that seeks to establish primitive Arab system of chopping hands, heads and its own world view by implied or enforced pressure. Islam has very little to do with God, God would need you to fight for him or spread his words..he can speak thru lightning of something instead of creating so much confusion..btw why is word of God so bad that it inspires people to murder? and why would God keep on writing messages that failed thru centuries?
RE:Imran questions for you
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 01:52 AM Permalink
Is campaining for an election equivalent to terrorizing ?
The only message that Muslims need to advocate is the oneness of God and then let people try to find out things for themselves.
W.r.t. conduct Muslims must follow their religious teachings such as,
- Cleaniness - Staying away from corruption - Obeying and caring for parents - Obligation and love towards family - Social Service - Tolerance - Respecting other religions, etc
But we do not see that in Muslims today. It is sad. We are the first to abuse, make a mess, show intolerance, show dis-respect.
If I truely believe that the Quran is the word of Allah, then I must let people research it as much as possible and make their own conclusion.
Today we see a very intolerant Muslim community. And it pains me. That is not what the prophet advocated.
RE:RE:Imran questions for you
by deepak on Jun 06, 2008 02:04 AM Permalink
Imran..the only message Muslim need is that Islam is fraud and inspires violence..it has completely failed its followers and the world..it has brought nothign but grief and sorrow, homelessness of millions of non Muslims, terror, jizya, chopping hands, heads, wrapping of women, genocide of non Muslims and terror. Muslims need to leave Islam immediately and do the world a favor. Join the ex Muslim movement and expose Islam for the fraud it is.
RE:Imran questions for you
by anusharan tiwari on Jun 06, 2008 04:17 AM Permalink
Imran bhai it seems you are a good man. I wish there should be more like you.
RE:Imran questions for you
by Indian Analyst on Jun 06, 2008 02:18 AM Permalink
Imran, Have read the bible, the gita, parsi, jain, buddhist, jewish, taosim philosohpies ?
How can you say that quran is better ?
Mohammed preached because he might have known other religions or studied them. But what makes you preach Islam ? Shoudn't you find out which is the best before you preach? Just as I am ignorant about Islam, you are ignorant about all other religions. But you still want to preach Islam to everybody... In short, I would defend your right to preach Islam, but I do not agree with your conduct.
RE:Imran questions for you
by Julius Augustine on Jun 06, 2008 09:17 AM Permalink
The point most are missing here is that Imran is saying that while most muslim harliners have concentrated and literally lifted interpretations from the Quran to suit their own bigotary needs should be condemned. Rather, look at the positives in the religion and act upon it. If Hindus think they are very progressive, then the caste system should have been abolished long back. We still want to marry our daughters and sons within the same caste. How many instances have we seen that a Brahmin has married a Harijan? Very few. So do we still follow the caste system as return in our ancient scriptures too literally just like the Muslims do?
RE:RE:Imran questions for you
by deepak on Jun 06, 2008 02:06 AM Permalink
It is the responsibility of every non Muslim, and there are 6 billion of them in the world as opposed to 1 billion Muslim, to encourage all Muslims to leave Islam and embrace spiritualism...true spirituality can be found in all non Islamic religions, but particularly in Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain etc philosophies.
