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INDIAN MUSLIMS
by hanif mohammed on Jun 08, 2008 02:51 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

One of the basic problem with Indian Muslims is, they are trans-national and get provoked by these mullahs into becoming jehadis !! If any Muslim country is attacked or suffer at the hands of US or Israel, we as Indians Muslims do not have any control over their disputes. Their own people and leaders should solve the issues, and find a peaceful way. If Palestians are not prepared to talk peace, we as Indian Muslims, cannot shake a strain of sand, by revolting and exploding bombs in India. Indian Muslims, should understand ground realities, and learn to assimilate with majority community, to attain peaceful and harmonious living in India. Organizations, such as SIMI are the idealogy of extremist, who target young Muslim youths studying in colleges outside their states. Its a slow brainwash, and the doctrine of hateredness is implated in their minds. Another major problem with us Muslims is, when we hear their (read simi's) justification for intolerance, most of the moderates, keep quite, and do not challenge or talk them out of it, for fear of being outcast or what they call people like me as Kafirs !! Its a freighting situation !! The elders and moderates in our community should put their foot down, and openly challenge these despots and try to stop them from performing another destruction of human lives. WAKE UP MODERATES - CHALLENGE THESE SO CALLED 'whatever' !!

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by Roque Mascarenhas on Jul 01, 2008 11:01 AM   Permalink
Dear Hanif,
Excellent, Just imagine if all of us get together as Indians, no body in the world will be able to touch us

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by Krishna Pal on Jun 18, 2008 12:42 PM   Permalink
I am 100% agreed with Hanif.


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by Ramesh Sharma on Jul 01, 2008 10:44 AM   Permalink
@Partha Das

I too have wondered the same a lot of times. The best way is for the police or other concerned agencies to find out the approach and strategies used to brainwash someone. This should be made public and the students in particular should be warned against falling into such traps. Even conversion to Islam and Christianity is done in similar manner.

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by Rajeev Khare on Jul 01, 2008 11:35 AM   Permalink
Muslims must not shelter terrorists from across the border.

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by A J Y on Jul 01, 2008 11:38 AM   Permalink
Do you know that the learned Mulayam Singh Yadav & Amar Singh took to the streets in protest when SIMI was banned in 2001 ...... Today when SIMI is blasting bombs these same haraam zaadas are sheding crocodile tears for the blast victims.

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by RISHABH SHARMA on Jun 08, 2008 08:15 PM   Permalink
M fully agree with u say Haneef.

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by Mahesh on Jul 01, 2008 10:33 AM   Permalink
Dear Hanif Mohammed,
You are a very nice Muslim. Being a Hindu I say this. You have understood the problem at the grass root level. Muslims in India are being brain washed by these SIMI or other outfits for their own benfits.
Terrorists exploit youth by money power. They attract these youths using woman power also for sex.

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by Partha Das on Jun 17, 2008 05:32 PM   Permalink
Excellent , I salute you for your logical and balanced approch , But I fail to understand How come these educated person be "BRAINWASHED" , by these Outfits.
How come they become so influential???

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by Kris iyer on Jun 09, 2008 03:38 PM   Permalink
Dear Hanif,
1. You are right - Indian muslims cannot carry the burdens of every Islamic community in the world. Just as a Hindu cannot, should not, turn into a bomber or killer over the plight of Malaysian, Guyanese or Fijian Hindus. Even with the plight of Kashmiri Hindus, will it be resolved with bombs planted in the Sri Nagar Sabzi Mandi? Or, even in the Chor Baazaar in Muzafarabad in PoK (it is not too difficult to organise it for abt Rs.12- 15 lakhs)?
2. Grievances - almost every group / caste has in India. Like Gujjars, there are groups / castes, in almost every state of India that feels bad about something.
If every group starts to plant bombs in baazaars, who will WIN, who will LOSE? I will tell you, Nobody will WIN, but everybody will LOSE. That is called MADNESS, PAGAL. Terrorist groups know this. But get their SOLE SATISFACTION IN BLOOD-SHED only.
3. Then there is a lot of silliness about REVENGE. Each group can name some incident for which it is seeking revenge. One says Gujarath, another says 1947, 1920 (Khilafat riots in Bengal and Kerala). It is once again a wild game.
I know it is a song we have all heard thousands of time but never learnt anything from:
"EASWARU ALLAH THERO NAM, SABKO SANMATHI DHE BHAGWAN". Sanmathi is what is lacking in India. The young men and women of SIMI can change India for the better by joining the "silent majority". There you will find many Muslims, Hindus and others. They work hard to keep India moving.



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by First Last on Jun 11, 2008 11:32 PM   Permalink

its a fact that:
rape is not directly punishable,
as per is!am's sharia.

only in SOME rare cases, it MIGHT BE punishable.

so where does today's modern, ultra-modern woman stand vis-a-vis is!am?

and that explains this:

OVER 35% OF RAPES IN INDIA ARE COMMITTED BY THE THE 15% MUSLIMS...


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by A J Y on Jul 01, 2008 11:35 AM   Permalink
Dear Hanif, You are correct , Indian muslims should not get involved in disputes outside of India , and then take sides based solely on religon & use that as an escuse to do hartaals , bandhs , bomb blasts etc etc .... that is crazy.

In W-WarII many european nations fought against each other, they were mostly christians , even in the middle east , iran-iraq , iraq-kuwait wars amongst muslim nations are quite common ..... man by nature is violent & politics & religon add fuel to fire ..... We must mind our own business & not get involved in other peoples wars on the basis of religon.

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by GRJ on Jun 12, 2008 08:59 AM   Permalink
The fights between Palestine Muslims and Jews is a territorial fight for which rest of the world is not responsible.

The descendants of Abraham have fought from their start. ie., Issac and Ishmael the progeny of Abraham the JEW and religion can not be a reason specially in the non palestine and Jewish countries.

Indians are exclusively ignorant and innocent of the territorial struggle the land of Judaism.

Some one in these columns was also saying that Adam and Eve were Muslims.


They had no religion. Unfortunately it is thrust upon them.....by these false religionists and have brought destruction of each other in our cilvilized world.

Their creator was supposed to be handling them as a master. But no Madrassa,Temple, Church, Gurdwara was erected to control them by their Master.

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