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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 12:44 AM   Permalink
This another example of wrong strategy.

Banning SIMI was the worst thing that the government can do.

I know people will call me names and tell me that I am a Muslim and Blah Blah...

Put your thinking caps on guys. Let SIMI operate in the open. This will help us keep a track of their leadership, contacts, operations, movements, funding, etc.

Also, by banning it, we lose the PR battle. A majority of Muslims, including myself, do not care much for organizations such as SIMI. But by banning it, the government ends up giving it more importance/legitimacy than it deserves.

A banned SIMI plays the "Victim" drama and unfortunately some Muslims fall for it. We must let organizations like these operate, but make sure their activities do not break the LAW.

SIMI does not have a big following and with its stupid aganda, it will never have a big following. Just like the Shiv Sena, it will end up as a party of the angry few.

Banning parties is not the solution. Debating them and offereing people better options is what will end this insanity.


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  RE:RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 01:13 AM   Permalink
What I am saying is let people hear their message and let us trust in our fellow citizens to make the judgement.

As an example,
SIMI may want Indian Muslims to join Pakistan.

Let me tell you right from my heart, many Muslims hate Pakistan to the core. Muslims in India do not want to join Pakistan. They will reject that call and hence reject SIMI.

Same applies to Al-Qaida. If they do not have a message to improve people's life, they will die as an organization.

What keeps them in news is this BAN. otherwise their accomplishment is ZERO.

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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by Indian Analyst on Jun 06, 2008 01:04 AM   Permalink
Imran,
It is not wrong strategy to close down active terrorist groups. They are responsible for deaths. They should be dealt with sternly.

A party should not be banned if it just has an extremist opinion and freedom of speech should not be curtailed. But if it is implicit in crime and anti national activity, it should be banned.



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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 01:09 AM   Permalink
SIMI was not killing people before it was banned. They have always been extreme in their views. But they have got more violent after the BAN.

We need to see the effectiveness of the BAN. We have banned so many outfits in Kashmir. What have we achieved.

These organizations must be defeated in ideas so that we cut any support/sympathy towards them.




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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by Indian Analyst on Jun 06, 2008 01:17 AM   Permalink
Imran,
to my knowledge, SIMI was exposed to having links with Bangla and paki extremist orgainization. Also it provided logistics support. It was banned after that.

Also i think once people were informed about SIMI 's activities, parents were cautioned and their sphere of influence was reduced.

Not sure if the ban worked or did not.

Your approach seems more courageous. Maybe you are right. Maybe not.

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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by imran patel on Jun 06, 2008 01:23 AM   Permalink
They were always allegations.

And even if they were true...that is the dialogue that we must have with the people of this country.

Arrest these individuals and prosecute them and put them behind bars. I am all for that.

We need to enhance our intellegence collection analysis capability. I am all for that.

But when we ban them without exposing them in front of the nation...we make them "Victims" in the eyes of a few. That is their source. We need to cut that.

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  RE:RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by good desi on Jun 06, 2008 01:28 AM   Permalink

Wish all muslims in India think and behave like Imran Patel and former president KALAM !!

God bless both of you !!


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  RE:Good - But needs so mcuh to be done
by mast friend on Jun 06, 2008 09:37 AM   Permalink
People like Imran should come forward and tell whats in their mind. If all Muslims in India are anti-Indian; we were not here where we are now. Only handful, brainwashed, and youths malign whole communities name.

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