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retir all the scientest
by dinesh kumar on Jun 05, 2008 06:37 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

If they are not able to develop any new engine,controls, then they must resing. the things they are saying is not bearable. we don't need such a waste group of scientest.

we need more abdul kalam

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  RE:retir all the scientest
by kundan kumar on Jun 05, 2008 07:32 PM   Permalink
At least Kalam has put DRDO in the forefront of the PR exercise, this makes sure that we all have heard of DRDO. In a way, it was necessary so that the nation knows about it and that puts certain pressure on the government to do something about it. Otherwise, no one would have given any damn to how much is the budget of DRDO...

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by MV Suryanarayana on Jun 05, 2008 07:54 PM   Permalink
I am surprised by your observation. DRDO has always been well funded organization since its inception. It doesn't need Kalam for higher funds. On the contrary, Kalam's contribution was negative.

He did not allow MoD to purchase crucial missiles for the defence. Govt of India had an eye opener during the Kargil when they had neither missiles purchased them and nor DRDO delivered to them.

Development these technologies is shrewed integration of already available technologies and indigenous technologies developed. If one does not balance it the project is certainly doomed.


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by kundan kumar on Jun 05, 2008 11:50 PM   Permalink
I do not know what sort of funding would be defined as "well funding"..because what I have seen atleast in terms of infrastructure available in DRDO, I am not impressed. It is definitely not anywhere close to world class....just see the buildings and the offices and it would not be difficult to get convinced that they lack funds or at least they need to use funds if they are well funded. The second argument about the negative contribution of Kalam is basically a perennial and classical dilemma of defense development or in general technological development. The argument is basically a vicious circle. For instance, suppose you need a missile..so you go to the market and then buy it and since you do not have the capabilities you would like to buy it as you find it cheaper to buy rather to put so much resources in an uncertain future of delivery of the missiles. However, at the same time you have lost an opportunity to develop the missiles also and made yourself very vulnerable in terms of the technological dependence upon the international market and in terms of defense deals, no countr can be trusted. No country would like to give you any technology unless it is forced to or sees more advantage otherwise.

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by kundan kumar on Jun 05, 2008 11:57 PM   Permalink
And there is nothing like 'a shrewd integration of already available technologies and indigenous technologies in the defense sector'. You need a working horse, now you need various components for that. Now no one is going to guide you as to which are available and which are not. Everything has to be done on your own, no literature, all the literature would be mostly lying or providing almost misleading data, it is not a very pleasant research. You need to learn the hard way and so it is imperative that we have foreing collaborations in order to be able to at least be equal to them and then certainly we can catch up with them.
Moroever, for Kargil, I do not think it was such a major issue. I do not think we were going to use some missiles for Kargil, and DRDO to ost of the time concentrates on those technologies which are more like strategic in nature and we were not using such technoligies for Kargil. So, I think, blaming DRDO for Kargil problems is stretching the arguments further than the common sense dictates us to do.

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by dinesh kumar on Jun 06, 2008 09:44 AM   Permalink
Every body is talking about resources,funds, There are several examples that if you have a wish from heart ways will open automatically. There are several examples of the same. Jagdish chader bashu, mary query, raman. with less resources & funds they have done excellent job in there field. its only matter of dedecation. lets teach scientist dedcate there life for aim & country

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by shanthipriya on Jun 05, 2008 06:56 PM   Permalink
Can Kalam alone achieve things?

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