RE:scum
by raj bir on Jun 05, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
i think you are from NCR where gujjars are wealthy due to tremendeous increase of land rates there.
RE:scum
by hitender singh on Jun 05, 2008 05:24 PM Permalink
there you go "you must have beaten by gujjars" hence proved, you are part of wild civilization
RE:scum
by raj bir on Jun 05, 2008 06:17 PM Permalink
yes it is all poltical, i dont think rajasthani gujjars will get the reservation. but they sat on roads then only this matter comes in limelight and you,me & other bloggers are expressing their views here. i also know writing here views no more concern with the actual action to be given to agitating people, but surely it is polticals as only first day of demonstration the killed several people just like previous year and after that they are ( maharani) enjoing helicopter visit and distributing pamplets and giving advt in newspaper that she never promised gujjars this demand, but surprisingly she has not done this previous year, this is because in next 6 months there is general elections in Rajasthan and she wants to grab 12% meena votes as compared to 5-6% gujjar votes there in rajasthan
RE:scum
by hitender singh on Jun 05, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
dont preach history, they weren't anything more than shepard tribe. it's so in Rajasthan even today. a tribe known from milking goats and being theif
RE:scum
by raj bir on Jun 05, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
so you support them to give rajasthani gujjars as tribal or ST. you accept it but other blogger may not. it is because you know them personally
RE:scum
by raj bir on Jun 05, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
i agree with you, thats why i earlier said "central govt should take initiative for its policy on reservation. but unfortunately for their vote bank neither BJP(NDA) nor Congress (UPA) has courage to come on front on their policy. they all want to continue with reservation as no poltical party will discontinue reservation due to loss of their vote bank. dr. bhim rao ambedkar recommended reservation for 10 yeras only, but it is continued till dated and those who are taking benefit of it are well established and creamy layer. as 5 norms for inclusion in st are too old and needs to be change as suggested in justice chopra report. SC also suggested to periodical review of reservation system. but govt for vote bank will continue it. it all (gujjar agitaion)started because JATS which are more wealty than gujjars included in OBC by BJP. and MEENA's which are also more welathy perospeous in rajathan than gujjars getting reservation as ST."
RE:scum
by hitender singh on Jun 05, 2008 05:52 PM Permalink
The sad part is the medium of demand. If status is granted, every tribe and cult will rip apart railway tracks with similar demands.
Other's in this blog are angry with this reservation system.
RE:scum
by raj bir on Jun 05, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
you called it wild civilisation, it is your thinking, but they are kshatriya. they better know how to fight for justice. it was gujjars that started revolt against english raj. that y english declare gujjars as revolting cast.
RE:scum
by hitender singh on Jun 05, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
The solution seems to overcrowd this side of 50%. Reservation can only be diluted by giving every reservation to every tribe and not one by one
