Afghanistan is now a war zone,prior to the invasion of USSR it was as good as any south asian country. Now let me come to the core of your analysis (????).
If force and military power could convert people,then british would have converted Afghanistan to a christian country when they ruled it with brutal force a hundred years ago. If sword can force people to change their ideology them Afganistan should now be the becon of communist rule-Since USSR during its powerful days was actually ruling the country. Even today the whole world is against Afganistan - And right from NATO to all military giants are camping and trying to propogate their value system. But Afghans are rejecting that with every means possible. These afghans are the same people whom you are now accusing of succumbing to Islamic invaders when cluster bombs couldnt subdue them , how could a mere sword will force them?
The TRUTH is contrary to your observation,Afganistan is a standing example that using force to propogate a ideology will never work and never worked no matter how powerful the sword is!!!!
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by khalid raza on Jun 04, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
BALOARD...HINDUS MIND WORK WITHIN THE PERIPHERY OF THE THE AMOUNT OF ANTI-ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE THEY POSSESS...THEY CANT ANSWER YOU FOR SURE ON THIS....BUT LIKE A PAGAN WILL JUMP ON OTHER TOPIC OR ABUSE ISLAM FOR SURE....
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by ransaran on Jun 04, 2008 10:23 AM Permalink
BALAORD YOU HAVE GOT TO THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM MY WELL WISHES ARE WITH YOU
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 10:40 AM Permalink
Same example is US. US does not wanted Saddam so he removed him. Also their motive was to establish democracy their so you can see iraq is democratic country today.
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by khalid raza on Jun 04, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
ha ha... democracy by usa...we have seen the democracy by us in afghanistan...same karzai is president for 7 years...the democracy in iraq menas different leaders for shia and sunni...i dont know when you ppl will stop licking usa's boot
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 10:48 AM Permalink
We are not licking US boot but your dear pakistan sucking everything of US. We are not begging against US. We are same indian who took saddams side due to our friendship.
Also we are not interested what is going other part of world. We know we have our glory and we are interested in progress of our country only.
We are not behaving like "Begaani shaadi me abdulla diwana". Also we are not claiming glory of sikandar or sallauddin. we know our roots very well.
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by khalid raza on Jun 04, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
more over the glory of salladin is in liberating the aqsa mosque from christan...same way you hindus praise the glory of knicer wallah nfor babri mosque
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by khalid raza on Jun 04, 2008 10:52 AM Permalink
Sparrow...pakistan is not dear to any muslims ....but i think hindus have very deep attachments with pakistan...in every discussion they crop up the name of pak...
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by Exposse on Jun 04, 2008 10:53 AM Permalink
Small correction.The Pak establismnt licks the boot of US and the public is against it. Here the govt is against it, but the pblic is every ready to lick the boots .That is the difference
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
Big correction here. India is democratic country here people choose government. Decision of government is decision of their people also. Show me any single hindu who ready to lick US boots. If any one than he is not hindu. We have our own identity and we are happy in it. May be dont have much reason as other faith. Still we ready to die to protect our small faith.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
The britisher motive was to earn money from afghanistan. Believe me if their motive was conversion or religiouse gain than afghanistan story would have been different than today.
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by balaord on Jun 04, 2008 10:43 AM Permalink
Islam is actually winning the hearts of americans because of its Inherent Truth.Here is the sample reports from the main stream US media on, How Islam is winning the hearts of Hispanics in US from main stream US media
St Pittusburg times sptimes.com/2008/02/09/Hillsborough/America_s_Muslim_popu.shtml
Voice of America - The US government funded media outlet on Islam's growing influence on Latino population
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by murli nair on Jun 05, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
Actually only the blacks in America are converting to islam, that too out of spite against white racism rather than attraction towards islam. Hispanics are very committed christians.
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by sushmita on Jun 04, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
"If force and military power could convert people,then british would have converted Afghanistan to a christian country when they ruled it with brutal force a hundred years ago. If sword can force people to change their ideology them Afganistan should now be the becon of communist rule-Since USSR during its powerful days was actually ruling the country"
THE BRITISH AND SOVIETS WERE THERE FOR MONEY, NOT RELIGION. THEIR OWN COUNTRY IS NOT COMMUNIST ANYMORE.
"These afghans are the same people whom you are now accusing of succumbing to Islamic invaders when cluster bombs couldnt subdue them , how could a mere sword will force them?"
THE CORE OF MY ARGUMENT IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BUDDHISTS ARE ALL GONE - MAJORITY KILLED OR FORCED TO MIGRATE. SOME CONVERTED TO ESCAPE.
SEE THE COMPARISON TO KASHMIR - WHERE ARE THE HINDU PANDITS TODAY ? ARE THEY STILL IN KASHMIR ? NO. MANY WERE KILLED IN 1989. MAJORITY MIGRATED OUT OF FEAR (AS TRAVEL OPTIONS EXISTED - EARLIER, THEY DIDNT). SOME ARE STILL LEFT BEHIND, AND SOME OF THEM ARE STILL KILLED EACH YEAR. THIS IS A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN CENTURIES AGO.
IF 200 LATER, SOME OTHER IDIOT ARGUES THAT WHERE ARE THE HINDUS IN KASHMIR - THEY ALL CONVERTED PEACEFULLY, YOU KNOW ITS AN ARGUMENT THAT HAS NO TRUTH IN IT. THIS IS THE CORE OF MY ARGUMENT. AND AFGHANISTAN IS A STANDING EXAMPLE OF THIS.
BUT YOU HAVE IGNORED MY PLEA - COMPARE INDIA TO AFGHANISTAN, AND DECIDE WHAT LEGACY YOU WANT TO LEAVE FOR YOUR CHILD.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 10:35 AM Permalink
This is totally biased statement made by you. Britisher niether believe in conversion theory nor they wants to rule on afghanistan for long period. They were interested in looting wealth only. Same britisher ruled on india also but they could not convert india due to their trading interest only. They were not having religiouse fobia in their mind.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jun 04, 2008 10:45 AM Permalink
There were not any forceful conversion. All were wishful. Also hinduism is not organized religion like other relgion. So you can say that we can not suppress other religiouse people forcefully like ME, may be due to our lake of unity.
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by ransaran on Jun 04, 2008 10:47 AM Permalink
sparrow YOU PEOPLE FREQENTLY CLAIM THAT WESTERN FUNDS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONVERSION OF LARGE NUMBER OF HINDUS THAN HOW CAN U SAY THAT BRITISH NEITHER BELIEVE IN CONVERSION. REPLY
