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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
hai dear, what is the condition of INDIA before 1947? was there an invasion happened b4? did we indians forgot history? AFGANISTAN had an invasion frm soviet union? they fought for their freedom? is that wrong? if thats wrong wat our freedom fighters did was wrong? subashji, bagat singh - were they wrong? tell me dear. Afganisthan was facing problms with warlords,ISLAMISTs, nationalists etc. that made dissintegrated. its not muslims(one who obeys only GOD) who made problems. But others(US,britain etc) dont like nation to rise wat afganis really needs.
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
What is invasion means? Invasion should not make others get disturbed? invaders should give rights for country's citizens. they should do justice to the people, they must never exploit people. even if now britain invaded india and if they rule very peacefuly and better than our politician (rulers) now, which one people prefer. our rulers or others? ofcourse it will be britains. ok im just asking u a possibility thats all. now let me ask u one thing. u told about mughals. how many freedom fighting happened in india during that period. they ruled nearly 1000 years. can u just show me one incident like happened during british times?how many riots happened during that period? british just ruled for 200 yrs. see what happened in india? was there any freedom fighting happened during that period? were people against them. where they not exploiting citizens? Ill never say all rulers of mughals are good.first of all they never been part of islam.that is the truth. learn more about them dear. but one thing is there. they never made exploit common people like british invasion.if not agreeing go and ask historians.
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by Money tvs on Jun 03, 2008 08:28 PM Permalink
well well look at his opportunism. when people fight, they are not muslims. when they have apprent peace, then it is a muslim nation. man with a serpent tongue i.e a tongue forked at the end and talks two ways, whichever suits him best.
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by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
WHO CREATED THE MESS IN AFGANISTAN?HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA 100% ISLAM,NO PROBLEM THERE.WOMEN ARE MORE SAFE HERE THAN IN INDIA.
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by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
Mr. ARH, I was told by a person who visited Saudi Arabia recently that if a hardcore Marxist Communist from India visits Saudi, he will get transformed into a hardcore RSS activist!!!!!! Should I say anything more??
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by Bharath Kumar on Jun 03, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
Read "Princess" Novel. Understand how barbaric they are.. especially for women...
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by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
Not only in Dubai but in Bahrain also such activities are continuing!!!!!!!!!!
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by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 02:47 PM Permalink
saudi arabia women are safer ?
just because they cant voice their opinion and you cant hear the screams doesnt mean they are safer
who are you to decide which place is safer for them ? let them decide !!!!
a safe golden cage is still a cage !!!!!!!!!! how would you love being in a golden room with fruits and air conditioning, but not allowed to move out of the room for the rest of your life ?
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by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Mr. ARH, a woman cannot get even a driving licence in Saudi Arabia nor can she go out without a male ralative for company. What safety are you talking about? Have you heard of the "Qatiff girl" (a gang rape victim) who was awarded 200 lashes just because she was found in the car of her ex-boy friend?
Pl read the book, A Thousnad Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini to understand what your Islamic Utopia really means.
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
That is why women is more safer. if u can provide woman safe in india. prove it. allow them with full freedom as u r telling now in india. show me atleast one woman can walk alone in streets of india without any fear.I can agree upon it. and no woman should get rape. or any thing even fear shouldnot b there in their heart. u can see such things in saudi arabia. i have been saudi arabia. Then Y in india women cant protect themself? When more freedom allowed in UAE? then we more problems women face here.
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:14 PM Permalink
no i not admiting there is serious crimes. ill not say its crime free. thats wat i meant. but they r doing justice to their people. did u know recent survey. more happiest people are people from saudi arabia in all means. go and check gulf news. so if there is lot of crimes and other things how can it be happiest country. u r not comparing it with india. u simply bluff.amnesty report is written in a western prospective. they are complaing about woman cannot have a free sex, they cannot expose their flesh, no bars, no liquors, no cinema theotres, no brothels. rulers are not giving license for these. So they says no freedom. is this freedom? are these amnesty problem?
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by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
Do you know what is meant by the "silence of grave-yard" ? The situation in Islamic countries is like that. You are also admitting that there are serious crimes in Saudi. Are you aware that as per Amnesty Internatinal's report for 2007, Saudi, Iran and Pakistan are among the first five countries which carried out maximum number of execution of convicts (Saudi tops the list).
Even after practicing Islam religionf for more than 1400 years, Saudi in still infested with criminals. Then what good is your religion?
All religions were created by vested interests for controlling the masses and all of them have outlived their utility. So pl come out of the religious dogmas.
Life on planet earth is the only thing known to mankind. Enjoy that to the fullest extent possible without creating any problems for others (even if you cannot help them in any way).
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
i never say it will never happened JGN. was the rates as happening in india or other nation. even though saudi is not a pure islamic state,tell me the condition of women. which one is better. now if u take in this whole world i found the crime rate is much lesser than other nations.its a truth.its a fact even if u r not ready to accept for the sake of argument.
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by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
I DONOT NEED TO READ A BOOK FOR INFORMATION ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA.I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS.HAVE YOU A HEARD A CABINET MINISTER HERE LIKE GEORGE FERNANDESE SPEECH ON ATROCITY ON PREGNANT WOMEN IN RIOT.WHAT HE SAID-IT IS COMMON IN RIOT THAT CRIMINALS DO. WHAT HAPPEND IN MUMBAI WITH NRI GIRLS WHEN FOUND WITH BF?
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by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Have you ever been out from India? I guess no,not at all.Your perception is based on mis-information.Ofcourse prostitution,nude exposure to allure men are not allowed.Women are in every field here.
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by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Several years after the collapse of communism, thousands of pros ti tut.es are still flocking to Dubai, the trade centre of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), from the countries of the former Soviet Union. And although pro.sti tut ion is illegal in the emirate, this appalling trade in human flesh is a high-profile activity in a region which hosts Islam's two holiest places - Makkah and Madinah. Even the self-appointed custodians of the shrines approve of the racket, travelling to Dubai to indulge themselves.
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
what a pathetic u r. UAE and SAUDI ARABIA are 2 different nations. u r telling that MAKKA and MADINA is in UAE. IT is just like u say DELHI and MUMBAI is in PAKISTAN. See it shows how good are u in ur knowledge. i think u better stop writing if u dont know
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
what a pathetic u r. UAE and SAUDI ARABIA are 2 different nations. u r telling that MAKKA and MADINA are in UAE. IT is just like u say DELHI and MUMBAI are in PAKISTAN. See it shows how good are u in ur knowledge. i think u better stop writing if u dont know
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by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
then y u want to wear semi dress. remove the whole dress and walk in street. Tell each men to control it. what ever it may u women cant stop doing it. its really funny that nobody should rape or get molested but they want to show without any problem. thats really funny. and blame is on MEN. easy thing.
