No muslim knows what other muslim is thinking, and is planning to do. It has become a community that is suffering from 'acute inferiority complex'. While left behind by the last two centuries, the community seeks the solution in 8th Century doctrine. On the one hand it wants to catch up with the world, it is afraid of losing 'its faith' in an obsolete doctrine. When the pain becomes unbearable, the community hits upon others whom it considers 'non attentive to its pain'.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
well the pain in evident on this message board itself, no need to go and look for the pain anywhere else. Look at this message board and you will know who is in pain and who fears losing faith. Our faith is solid and will remain solid forever.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by satyarthi on Jul 31, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
If not in pain (real or false), why are you killing others, even sometimes your own co-religionists?
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:21 PM Permalink
You should answer that question. We condemn terrorists in no uncertain terms. Anybody who kills innocents will rot in hell. We dont elect them as our chief minister. For us these people are outlaws and for you terrorists are visionaries and your leaders. There is a great difference between the two.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by satyarthi on Jul 31, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Here the discussion is not about 'the socalled visionaries'. The thread is exclusively about the 'muslim community'. it will be a service to humanity, if you help to understand their mind, as you belong to this community.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by shailendra lande on Jul 31, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
really a good and meaningful discussion ever happened on this forum. Thanks both Satyarthi and Arif.
RE:RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Ras on Jul 31, 2008 08:57 PM Permalink
was this a good discussion , Arif was spitting venom on hindus by saying they hate other and elected terrorists and murderers as leader. Like all muslims he doesnt respect democracy and indian law..
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:31 PM Permalink
You should know their mindset better than us. As I said, it is you who celebrate and take pride in terrorist activities. You even elect terrorists as your leaders. You should know their mindset better because they are like you. We condemn acts of violence against any innocent. This message board is witness to the fact that you are suffering from hate, not us.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by satyarthi on Jul 31, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
Thanks for spending time with me. i felt obliged. We will keep on searching for the answer in our own way. khuda hafiz.
RE:RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by satyarthi on Jul 31, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
Anyway, i have read your 8.08pm thread and appreciate it. It is definitely a good appeal. Even in that appeal, you have requested them to shun 'hate'. My simple question, as I am trying to understand, why they hate the world so 'furiously'?
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
our mind is clear, we condemn any acts of violence against innocents, do you ? Ofcource not. You take pride in it. You celebrate it. And here lies the difference between your mindset and our mindset.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
If your parents teach you that stealing is bad, does it mean that you are thief ?
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by satyarthi on Jul 31, 2008 08:29 PM Permalink
Arif, if your 'our' includes terrorists you should answer my question directly. If your 'our' exclude terrorists, help us to understand their mindset. Please don't evade the basic question.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 08:36 PM Permalink
Ofcourse even if one man is suffering from hate in my community I will appeal to them to shun hate. I wont celebrate it and join them. Isnt it your duty to always give the right message to your community ?
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Ras on Jul 31, 2008 08:55 PM Permalink
Arif, Never ever hindus attacked any muslim country or muslims in the hostory. First of all muslims attacked india starting with Qasim. It is muslims who divided this country in to 3 parts and kicked out all hindus and sikhs from pakistan. thousands of hindus were murdered in peshawar and Noakali at the time of partition. The muslims who stayed in india did not stay due to the love towards the country. Even after 1000 years of living in india you guys still think ur descendants of arabs and not indians.. The pain and all is bulllshit as 99% of riots are started by muslims. You guys deny the history but ur own people like Timur written that how many and how they killed Kafirs. Hindus and hinduism never said any thing about other religions and infact hindus respect evry god and prophet but you muslims never respect any other religion and words like Kafir shows the hatred in you.
RE:Muslims are badly divided community
by Arif on Jul 31, 2008 09:02 PM Permalink
Aaah, now you are comparing the system that existed hundreds of years ago to todays system, in that case can you explain why did hindu king Asoka got involved in bloody battles ? That was the system of that time, kings expanded their territories. In this case they happened to be muslims, before that there were hindu kings who did that. That was the system then and you are comparing it with todays system where invasions are considered illegal. Yet some countries invade other countries for stealing their resources.
