RE:Indian muslims
by Kabeer on Jul 29, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
Dear Rehana,
1. The beauty of India is multiculturalism. How does Uniform Civil Code help?. Everyone has a choice to be governed by what he or she likes; they can always choose the faith they want to follow and a Muslim can be coverted to Hinduism and vice-versa. Why do you need a Uniform Civil Code when you have a free choice?
2. Had you followed Shariyat Law or even its equivalent Hindu law, you would not have had so many criminals going on raping sprees and murders. Even some of the old Hindu laws advocate amputation and was actually practised till the advent of English Jurisprudence.
A Rape is not inhuman; but chopping off a rapists genitals is inhuman according to all human rights activists.
3. Yes Muslims should hand over the terrorists who hide behind them; but before they do it can any Hindu put Modi to gallows?
4. Simple common sense. YOur nations population depends on how many children a woman bears. Even a muslim has four wives each woman bears usually not more than 2 children. i.e. Eight children for a family. Check if a Hindu woman bears less than 2 children. Even there for four women you have 8 children. How Muslims are increasing Nations population?
5. Fine! Abolish Minority Commission. Can you in the same breath advocate scrapping of SC/ST commission? When one need not be distinguished by the faith, why distinguish him or her by caste and benefit them on that basis? Leave Congress aside. Does the BJP has the guts to scrap SC/ST Commission?
RE:Indian muslims
by Ratnesh Sahay on Jul 29, 2008 03:50 AM Permalink
If this is the opinion reflected in an educated literate miuslim, think about the majority of them who are not educated. One cannot expect any better from the community and I don't see how people stop hating them.
RE:Indian muslims
by Rehana on Jul 29, 2008 12:58 AM Permalink
Kabeer
1. Multi culturism can still prevail if there is uniform civil code in India. It has nothing to do with code. Conversion can still be there.
2. Presently no hindu law advocates for amputation. But our muslim neighbor countries still follow it in the name of shariyat law. In India when it comes to take advantage muslims follow Indian laws but when it does not they backout in the name of Shariyat Laws. How do you say that rape is not inhuman? attacking the dignity of a woman is not inhuman? sorry Kabeer but it looks like that you are one of sadists, talibani type muslim.
3 If you remember gujrat riots were the reaction of what muslims did before. how come modi to be put to gallows?
4. Marrying only one woman will bore only two children. Muslims can equate hindus on the same terms. theny why marrying four? dont try to fool others.
5. I am with you on this issue. Be it congress or BJP they should, in the interests of country, should abolish all such commissions which set communities apart.
RE:RE:Indian muslims
by Kabeer on Jul 29, 2008 01:09 AM Permalink
Dear Rehana,
1. Where the absence of Uniform Civil Code hurting Hindus? If it is hurting it hurts Muslims and they dont have a problem. Why Hindus should have a problem that doesnt concern them?
2. Read Arthshastra written by Kautilya.
3. I didnt say Rape is not inhuman; I am saying what the so called human rights activists say. They are against chopping off genitals of rapists and public thrashing of criminals. Had it been practised those who see that happening would desist from such activities. Today no one fears.
4. Do you sincerely believe that Modi could not have stopped the genocide that went on in Gujarat? Hasnot he used it to meet his political ends?
Understand one thing very clearly!
Modi never saved any Hindu and never will.
He only killed innocent Muslims instead of capturing and punishing Godhra perpetrators.
Many a conscientous Hindus who witnessed the carnage in Gujarat before their eyes used to wake up in the middle of theirn sleeps in mid night unable to accept the carnage.
RE:Indian muslims
by bharat bhooshan on Jul 29, 2008 08:54 AM Permalink
First of all you have no idea of uniform civil code which envisages administering the same set of secular civil laws to govern different people belonging to different religions and regions. So no special privilages will be given for one cummunity. There's nothing wrong in having uniform civil codes.
India is not a theocracy. we can not have our constitutions based on any relegion so ethically four woman for one man is not right at all!. But congress changes the law just to appese minority which happened Shah bao case. Did any so called progressive muslim had any guts to oppose this same!?
There's no doubt that demography of india is changing. Commies are opening the gate for bangladeshi and giving them all rights which is big cause of worry.
finally you only accept there are 8 childern per man. Isn't is ridiculous?
Just open the door of your mind .. think .. you will get solution!
RE:Indian muslims
by Demo-crazy on Jul 29, 2008 12:55 AM Permalink
Kabeer, Many of your arguments are downright silly! Wake up, think before you post something.
Uniform civil code is not going to stop you practice your religion. It will only come into play in the matter of applicable law.
RE:Indian muslims
by Kabeer on Jul 29, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
Dear Crazy,
Why do you think English Jurisprudence is better than your own laws?
Just check in how many rules and regulations the Govt that follows Englsih Jurisprudence says upon attaing 18 year a son is not a dependent but an unmarried daughter even she is 60 years of age is a dependent.
Ok. Dont follow Shariyat Law.
But what about your own Arthshastra? Even Kautilya advocated similar punishments in Arthshastra! And Arthshastra is universally acknowledged as one of the most comprehensive compilation of practices of good statecraft.
