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YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:13 PM   Permalink | Hide replies


But their deemed approach is not by Military and coercive methods...it is by spreading message of Islam and make people appreciate Beauty of it.


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  RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:18 PM   Permalink
correction:

Of course Hindus are most welcome to spread idea of Ram rajya if they want to. But no group has Right to stop others speading their views in peaceful fashion


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  RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:17 PM   Permalink
You could not achieve that in 1400 years despite all the forced conversions and patronage from the Sultans. How are you going achieve that now?

And of course the muslims would not hesitate to carry out even genocide for achieving their narrow religious agenda.

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by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:33 PM   Permalink
My Dear friend we have achieved a lot in last 1400 years which is visible my the rate of conversion people embrass islam and the reason for it is only ISLAM teached peace and believe in brotherhood understanding the way people embrass islam is there any other religion right now which is growing at this speed.I dont want to compare anything but what actually i want to convey is that if so many people embrass islam that itself proves that ISLAM is a peace loving and peace teaching religions other than other things
Good Luck

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by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:36 PM   Permalink
Yes, we all can see that "loving and peace" the world over day in and day out. The proof of pudding is in eating. No need of any elaboration.

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by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:20 PM   Permalink

It should not concern you what is their success rate.

Instead of insinuating with lies, you better give ONE example from History to support that they would not hesitate to do Genocide.

You can not

(do not talk crap of Sadda, Yahya Khan...they wee not spreading Concept of Islam or Caliphate)


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  RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:25 PM   Permalink

I knew JGN can do blah blah. He can not site one example

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by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:24 PM   Permalink
What about Aurangazeb? Indian history is replete with events where the Islmic invaders committed mass murder and forced conversions. Even Tippu Sultan had converted people of Malabar forcibly.

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by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:26 PM   Permalink

Aurangzeb... when where, how many ..Give example, Give reference. I know you got nothing except //unsubstantiated// masaala from Hindu Fasists sites

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by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:28 PM   Permalink

JGN, I challenge you to give reference to work on Aurangzeb and Tipu on Forced Conversions.



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by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:30 PM   Permalink
Pl read articles available at Wiki. Also "Calicut: The Citi of Truth revisited" by Prof. M.G.S. Narayanan, published by University of Calicut.

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by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:17 PM   Permalink

Of course Hindus are most welcome to spread idea of Ram rajya if they want to. But no group has ight to stop speading their views in peaceful fashion


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  RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 07:30 PM   Permalink
So you are saying Christians should be allowed in Islamic nations to spread their religion, including Saudi Arabia, in a peaceful manner?

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by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:19 PM   Permalink
Yes, we all can see that "peaceful fashion" the world around. Btw the hindus do not have any obsession for a country of their own. Had they wanted, India would have been a Hindu country at the time of partition itself. Thank the founding fathers of our nation for making it a secular democratic republic despite the animosities of partition.

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by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:30 PM   Permalink
Do you mean at the time of independence of india there were no muslims in the country or else you mean that had india wanted it would have killed all muslims at that vey moment but to your correction whatever there is is india most of the places are because of mughals and they all were muslims.
India parlimet= made my britishers
Red Fort=Mughals
Qutub Minar= Mughals
Taj Mahal=Mughals
Gwalior Fort=Mughals

So on

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  RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:34 PM   Permalink
What use is those monuments to the common man? Gandhi had said even god would not dare to appear in front a hungry man except in the form of bread.

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by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:35 PM   Permalink
masu, do you mean to say that Pakistan declared itself as an Islamic country because there were no followers of other religions at the time of formation of that country? It is another matter that most of them have been wiped out from that country since then.

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by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:43 PM   Permalink
Dear JGN
I am not here to support india or pakistan but as you were discussing about muslims and the religion so that made me to reply this way.It is always better for all of us live in religion harmony and treat humans as humans and respect each others religion the way we all respect our religion. This is what my religion(ISLAM) teaches me.
I wish you luck and success

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by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:22 PM   Permalink

YES ...muslim response is pretty peaceful when compared to 10 Million Muslims killed by Aggressions against them in last 100 years by WEST, USSR etc.



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