ndia is a democracy but communism does not believe in it. Communist parties around the world are products of Marxian or Leninist doctrines which do not accept democracy as a mode of governance. Democracy is anathema in communism and people around the world are still fighting to end the dictatorial rules of the communist parties. Indian communists are not democrats by choice. The party organization is run in India just like communist parties run governments the world over. The ultimate aim of communist manifestos is not democracy. It is an irony. While democracy allows communism, communists by their faith do not believe in democracy. In their way of governance, not only governments but also democracy are subservient to the party. It is unrealistic to expect communists to have any respect for democratic institutions. They just want to use Indian democracy as ploy for achieving their ultimate objective of communist dictatorship in the country. Expulsion of the Speaker of the Indian from CPM is only an example of what these communists ultimately want to do with Indian Democracy
RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Padmanabhan Manoj Kumar on Jul 24, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
I accept communist dont respect democracy. But what kind of democracy is the question. The kind of democracy that we saw on 22nd need not be respected at all. In the last 50 years what China has achieved is tremendous. It will take another 100 years for us to build a city like Shanghai or Beijing. Having traveled to many cities across the world i was taken aback by the way in which china has developed in the last 10 years. Development can not only be seen in their buildings, roads, highways and other infrastructure but on the lifestyle of the people as a whole. Go to our cities and see what our kind of democracy has brought to us. I am a supporter of Democracy, but can we proudly say what we have today is Democracy at all. No. One thing is for sure...that the Communist parties are the only parties in India where corruption and fight for power inside the party is the least and expulsion of Somnath from the party despite the fact that he is such a senior leader shows that party discipline is followed irrespective of the position of the individuals. And talking of Dictatorship...can you go alone to a political party leader of your local area and question his actions and come back uninjured and successfully launch a police complaint at the first instance itself. I am closely associated with the legal fraternity and i know what the ground reality is. Even for registering a FIR u will have to move the Court and answer a hundred questions.
RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Somik Roy on Jul 24, 2008 09:06 AM Permalink
China is misleading. Do not judge a person by his clothes or his house by his drawingroom. You need to go deep. The labors of China have no say. They are forced laborers, with very little wages viz a viz US & Europe. Thats why Made in China goods are cheap. The billions of Foreign Exchange reserve in dollars have come from Chinese expatriats working abroad.Middle class Indians prefer to remain silent. Nobody wants to raise a voice and then get into trouble with Party goons.Its because of this political parties suppress anyone questioning their motive or integrity. So middle class and poor class stay away from unnecessary harassment.So Political parties enjoy clout by fear and rein of terror. But the truth can never be suppressed long.Wrong karma will have bad repercussions sooner or later. Be it BJP, Congress,Laluji or the Left everyone has to suffer for their misdeeds. Churchill said "Courage is one quality that outshines ever other qualities." Fear and Temptation are the two sticks with which Politicians, Marketers,Businessmen, Priests rule the People."If you do this you will be healthy, wealthy and success, if you don't do you will Lose, suffer and be poor". So beware of any person making promises or claiming to be experts. Be it stock brokers or astrologers or politicians. Use your head believe in God and get ahead in life. There is neither success or failure. Everymoment spent peacefully & happily is the greatest achievement. Don't give examplesof China. Its all boogey.
RE:RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Jai Max on Jul 24, 2008 08:08 AM Permalink
Who said it is easy to nurture and preserve democratic traditions. It is indeed a tougher task. Of course communist dictatorship are easier to establish than democracies. The real problem is any kind of dictatorship, be it monarchical or cadre based all lead to same disorders and disasters. Why have so many countries in the world ultimately rejected communism? Is it not the dogma of communism to believe that one day the whole world would come under communist rule? How do you explain country after country saying good bye to communism? Communism is surviving in China because communism in that country is reduced to a mechanism for hanging on to power. It is more capitalistic and dictatorial than many other democratic countries. Do not fall a prey to the easy way out that communism propounds. Democracies are tougher to establish and sustain. But the most important point is that every effort to promote democracy is worth far more than anything done to prop up communism
RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Sanjay Chakraborty on Jul 24, 2008 06:17 PM Permalink
On the contrary, the left parties are probably the only polotical organisations in India where collective decisions are taken. Once a policy has been finalised, the party members are expected to strictly adhere to it, whosoever they may be. Contrast this with the so called "democratic parties" where more often than not the decision about party conduct and organisation is left to the "High Command" which usually consists of ONE person or a coterie around him/her. The truth about Chatterjee is that he realised that at his age, once his constituency Bolpur became reserved, this is the end of electoral politics for him. If he was so much concerned about being a non-partisan Speaker, then he should have resigned from the party membership the day he became Speaker following the Westminster model. However at that time Bolpur was not a reserved constituency and Chatterjee harboured future political aspirations. Witness the spectacle of 3 former speakers of the house namely : Shivraj Patil (Union minister), Murli Manohar Joshi (leading the Shiv Sena in LS) and Purno Sangma. Thus the crap about a non political speaker is just that - crap. At this juncuture Chatterjee is trying to ensure his place in Indian Parliamentary history and he's doing a great job od it. First he presided over a house being a member of the Opposition (the Speaker is usually from the ruling party or an ally. Secondly he is expelled from his party for indiscipline and he is to ensure discipline in the Lok Sabha!
RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Brij D on Jul 24, 2008 07:16 AM Permalink
What a lousy joke. Can anyone really look at what Manmohan Singh and his friends did to survive the no confidence vote, and still claim that Singh respects the Indian democracy?
RE:Communists have no respect for democracy
by Jai Max on Jul 24, 2008 07:55 AM Permalink
Yes Indian democracy has miles to go. It is unfortunate that all the cross voting is linked to horse trading. What can you expect in a country where bribes are offered to Gods in exchange for bountiful favours. Like offering Rs 101 puja in return for a lakh of rupees lottery perhaps. This however does not go to prove that communism is better than democracy. If there has been corruption, then these must be probed and penalised. Two wrongs never add up to anything right
