The arabs call all Indians (irrespective of religion) as "Hindi misken" (wretched Indians). The muslims from the Indian sub-continent (India, Pak and Bengladesh) are not considered as equals by the Arabs. They are in fact considered as "frauds" by them. Toothless Arabs can marry minor girls at Hyderabad or Calicut but no muslim from the Indian sub-continent can marry an Arab girl. Still the Indian muslims fancy that they are direct decendents of the Arabs!
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by Star on Jul 22, 2008 01:12 PM Permalink
Well these sort of disputes of their beliefs and proving one's superiority over other...
This is a part of our human nature..it does not have anything to do with the teachings of Islam ..though they are using Islam as a basis for this...
Instance is Hindus could not tolerate your HINDU Low castes for centuries, just to prove their superiority.......
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:15 PM Permalink
What about "Ajlaf" and "Ashraf"? Is is there only in hinduism? In AP itself there are more than 12 Castes in Islam. Put search words "Cast system in Islam" and see the result.
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by Star on Jul 22, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
But every one worships same Almighty and follows same messenger, unlike hindus every hindu has his own god out of 33 Crores........
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
My feets are still in the air!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the only solace for you!!!!!!!!!!1
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by Bihari on Jul 22, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
Dear JGN, I am an Indian Muslim and working in SAUDI ARABIA for the last 10 years in a government organization. I have never ever experienced such thing.I have many colleagues muslim and non-muslim from India, Pakistan and other countries but nobody has complained such partiality.Infact among all,it is indians who are respected most.
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:23 PM Permalink
Can you deny that the Arabs refer to the Indians as "hindi miskeen" ??? Is this a word invented by me??
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by Bihari on Jul 22, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
How can they call me miskeen,I am paid more than them.Miskeen stands for beggar and it referred to those people who were brought here illegaly few years back for begging bussiness.
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
First you and Star decide between yourself what is the meaning of "miskeen" Both have given different meaning. And I know for sure that the Arabs refer to Indians as "hindi miskeen" irrespective of religion.
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by Krukshetra Thunder on Jul 22, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
dear JGN, what is this business about being descendants of Arabs? Who made this claim? If you study Islam and its teachings very closely you will find no place for false superiority in the name of any tribe, clan, sect or color. The prophet Mohammed in his last sermon had said (please read it , it is available on the net) Arab will not have any spremacy on Ajami(non Arabs) nor a white will have supremacy over black. That you can see practically on display in every mosque, specially dring the Haj when thirty lakh Muslims gather in Mecca and stand shoulder to shoulder with out any discrimination. Please read, read and ready with open mind
there is no need forthe Indian Muslims or Muslim in any other part to look at themselves as descendants of Arabs. Majority of Muslims in India are the aborigins of this country and they are proud of that. Jai Hind
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by Bharat on Jul 22, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
Every Indian knows the answer. What is Islam & what muslims are. Is they were in majority in India, all other religion followers would have been vanished. Look at Pakistan & Bangladesh.
It is because of India culture & religions (other than Islam) you are surviving here.
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by Samir Moosa on Jul 22, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
Muslims kings ruled India from North to the South and from East to the West for nearly 700 years. Did Islam become the official state religion or did they convert all Hindus??? Answer is "NO". If RSS had its way Muslims in India would have vanished the same way as Hindus vanished in Pakistan and Bangladesh. But that cant happen in a secular and moderate country that is India. Plus the Muslims who stayed back during partition and actually many Muslims from North West Frontier Province who came to India during Partition, are as loyal to India as Hindus or even more. Imagine leaving a supposed Islamic country and settling in a non-islamic country knowing fully well that you can be alienated. It requires lot of love for the nation to lay down your identity for it.
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by Bharat on Jul 22, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
So you accept hindus were vanished from pakistan & bangladesh because of Islam OK. Why won't it happen if you muslims are in majority in India? Look at Kashmir.
You people can talk good only untill your are in minority in numbers. AND MODI is a reply to you.
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 04:13 PM Permalink
Dear Samir Moosa, RSS is another fundamentalist organization. Majority of hindus do not subscribe to their ideology.
Ours is a secular democratic country where we have the freedom to follow any religion, worship any god or not to worhsip also.
Till about 2 years back I was also under the impression that Islam is a good religion but after reading the vulgur remarks of some muslims (specially one Mr. Rafiuddin Farooqui) against our native culture only I started to look deeper into the matter.
Some of the islamic rulers tried to convert the natives into religion (Aurangazeb, Tippu Sultan in Malabar, etc but that was exception). They were also like the politicians of our time. The muslim population at time was about 8% or so only. They could not have ruled by alienating rest of the population. Aslo once having established they were only interested in amassing wealth, filling up their harems with beautiful women, building monuments, etc. They did not care for the common muslims also.
There is no need for the Indian muslims to justify them nor to be apologetic. Those things happened in a distant past. We cannot correct historical wrongs. The world as a whole resembles nothing that existed prior to World War-II.
The muslims stayed back in India at the time of partition due to their attachment to their native land and/or fear of the unknown. Now they are Indians and there is no need for them to show extra-territorial loyalities in the name of some imaginary
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:51 PM Permalink
All those things are in the book only. It is a fact that there is caste system in Islamic society also.Tthe "black" Omanis are not consiered as equals by the "white-skinned" Omanis. the equality you are talking about exists only at the time of Haj and prayer in the mosque. And of course The Quran says that "Khoresh" is the superior most tribe on planet earth.
I do not beleive in the dogmas of any religion nor in any god, but it is really irritating to see the muslims ridicule our native culture day in and day out as if there are no flaws in their religion. They should also understand that there are many people who are aware of their customs also.
I am quite sure from an unbiased reading of The Quran that it was the concoction of Muhammed to motivate his followers (with all those rewards in heaven or cruel punishments in hell, etc).
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by Krukshetra Thunder on Jul 22, 2008 02:08 PM Permalink
My dear sir, you are losing the sight of the main issue. As you claim to have read Quran (ubiased). But you contradict your self when you say "Quran says that Kores is the superior most tribe". There is no such verse in all the 114 chapters of Quran. Islam disapproves superiority in the name of clans and the castes. Muslim respect Quresh on their own as prophet Mohammed comes from this tribe. That is all. As far as Quran being concoction of the prophet is concerned, such an allegation has been thrown for the last four than 1400 years but never proved. consider these facts Prophet could not have written such a book because he was an "Ummi" (illiterate). He had never read any book, leave alone write, before the Quran was revealed tohim over a period of 23 years. Secondly Quran is the only book in the written history which can be completely memorized by heart. There are are lakh of people in the world who remember it by heart. if you have any doubt visit nearest mosque. on the other hand please find a person who remembers evern a few pages any other book. Think, my dear, think
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
There are many people who know Bhagwat Gita also byheart. That is not a qualification. There was no wireless technology in West Asia in the 7th Century for the "most merciful creator" to transmit the verses to Muhammed.
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by Krukshetra Thunder on Jul 22, 2008 01:35 PM Permalink
Dear JGN (whatever it means) speak like a cool mind. If all the Arabs were as disdainful towards the sub continent as you think,there would not have been five million (50 lakh) Indians working in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries. Indians command more respect than in any other community in Dubai and UAE. Diwali celebrations in Dubai is more grand than in Mumbai As far as Arabs marrying Hyderabadi girls, it is an old story repeated again and again to tarnish the image on Arabs on one hand and insult the Muslims as "daughter sellers". By doing so, neither people like you nor half blind Indian media are doing a service to our nation and our relations to Arab brothers.
If by calling us Hindi Miskeen you think some people are insulting us, ask your self how we Indian insult each other by calling names to each other, be it Dalits, tribals, Sindhis, Gujrati, Malyalis, Muslims and so on. Be cool man.
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:40 PM Permalink
My message was to the Indian muslims who are "more loyal than the king" when in fact they are not treated as much better than the "dalits" in India by the Arabs. I know what I am talking about.
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>If by calling us Hindi Miskeen you think some people are insulting us...........so you are also indirectly admitting that the Arabs refer to the Indians like that!!!!!
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:24 PM Permalink
Mr. Sharma, the Indian muslims are just deluding themselves. The Arabs do not consider Muslims from the Indian sub-continent as equal to them. This is a fact.
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by Bihari on Jul 22, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
I think Mr.JGN should come out of his well to see the world.For you in the well,there may be Indian hindu or muslim but outside your well there is only "Indian"
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by JGN on Jul 22, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
Yes, that is why I have written "all Indians (irrespective of religion) are called hindi miskeen". The Arabs do not differentiate between Hindus, Muslims and Christians from India.
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by Ram Sharma on Jul 22, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
Only very serious people can b atheist. Bcz religion is introduced in us by the family and society as soon as u r born, deviding us as Hindus (various castes), Muslims (various sects and castes in India), Jews, Sikh (various castes), Christian (various sects and castes in India) etc.
