The article and most of the people writing about the trust vote are taking a patently wrong like. Rahul says many MP's of BJP are in favour of the deal. So he wants all of them to vote for UPA. Similarly many MP's in UPA shall be against the deal. Shall they vote against the govt. The trust vote is not for the deal but for the govt. If Congress was so sincere about the deal, they should have told every thing about this in detail to the Parliamnet as also the nation. All this is going on for almost 2/3 years. There could have been a thorough debate in Parliament as also in other forums. The govt could have asked the parliament to vote on the deal in a secret ballot like it is being done in USA. And all they did was that the parliament's approval is not required. But now the question is for the govt to prove it's majority in parliament. Once there major supporter has withdrawn its support, the govt has to prove its majority. It is the duty of the govt to arrange its numbers.No where in any democratic country the opposition provides numbers to the govt. Like written in the article also, many in the UPA may be against the deal and many in opposition may be in favour. But it does not make a difference. franky more 99% of the MP's including Rahul Gandhi & Sonia Gandhi and more then 99.99% of the public does not know ABC of the deal. Every body is just talking and talking without any knowledge. I also belong to 99.99%.
RE:DEAL & UPA
by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Jul 18, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
I am one of those who have understood the deal and I know that we stand to reap fruits out of this deal in every way.
Why did the need for the deal arise ? To remind you the second nuclear test was done way back some time and that gave rise to the need for US to take an assurance that the further nuclear fuel that they will supply will not be used to repeat that route. If you have followed the events you will recall it was Dr APJ who worked to test the trigger the second time. It is he who is now also clear that tests have not to be conducted again and again. The learned individual that he is has already supported the deal.If you read the presentations it is clear that India's right of test is retained.
The deal is required to be able to procure nuclear fuel for our nuclear reactors. You are aware of the power shortage present in the nation. The deal is the correction route to this power gap eliminating.
The opposition to the deal is by CPM who take US as the eternal enemy. Be reminded of the definition given by Dr Samuelson..." If you do not turn Communist by 17, you do not have a Heart, But if you continue to be a Communist after 25 you do not have HEAD." I need not elaborate it more.
The initiation to sign this deal was done by BJP in their days in power. Pramod Mahajan was one of those who were entrusted the initiation. Now with the chance of POWER coming visible to BJP they want to take the chance of pulling down the govt by voting against the confidence motion.
RE:DEAL & UPA
by Mukesh Kripalani on Jul 18, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
hmmm... good analytical reply.... i wonder why every news channel continues to just echo what each MP is going to do and not do this kind of study and present it. If this kind of analysis is presented continuously instead of the constant numbers game thats being shown, at least there will be some sensical debate(if at all there is one). good you hv understood the deal. i hope someone picks this up and airs it for everyone to see it. as of now all politicians are up in protecting their stated positions !!
RE:DEAL & UPA
by Thanappan K on Jul 18, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
"it is clear that India's right of test is retained" So also the right and obligation on the part of US to stop fuel supply and create another "Tharapore Experience", in case India takes any decisions in future that is inimical to the interests of the US govt.
RE:DEAL & UPA
by Correct Choice on Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
Objections: 1. Dr Kalam has since revoked his support in the light of fresh discussions with Mr Shourie. 2. There is a lot of problem as regards the cost of power generated by nuclear route. In all probablity it will be way too costly. 3. BJP has clearly and repeatedly stated that they are not against a nuclear cooperation deal, but not in this format, which compromises some of our sovereign rights. 4. The entire attitude of the UPA government in this matter smacks of dishonesty, not bothering about national consensus on important international policy matters. 5. The deal is in a way ostensibly about bringing together two democracies for a strategic purpose, but as it stands today, it definitely is humiliating to us, and does not recognise our rights. 6. Why can't the UPA try to use the opposition objections to wriggle out a more favourable deal for us?
RE:DEAL & UPA
by Sukumar Samajpati on Jul 18, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
10 years back, We had a foreign reserve of 30 bil $. Today it's close to 200 bil $. The improvement came because of the open economy and new generation Indians who thinks India can also be a develop country. We were blessed with some good quality leaders during post independence. There were some quality thinkers, visionaries always born in India. Unfortunately the place has changed. Today political parties run like an organization. They have the complete database of people and they have also kept highly paid Management Graduates who are constantly using media, drafting speeches for ministers and MPs. Each and every move is being invested by Business men who will gain from this move. So, let’s accept the truth that Deal or NO-Deal. UPA or NDA, Left or Right everyone is trying to get their mileage from this situation. Please, don’t get surprise that horse trading is not new in India, BJP bought SP MPs in 1994 almost at 70% less price than the numbers floating today in the market. Cong , CPI-M BJP, SP everyone is doing it. Guys, you have accept that this is a better bet than any other business you are doing . So, let’s not waste your time here, Just try to be an MP or MLA instead.
