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by Abhi Bhat on Jul 13, 2008 08:20 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Comments are mapped one on one to your points below.
1) The whole usa is a colony of goras. They drove the locals away. Colonialism is in their blood and gene.
2. They are ruling not politically but economically exploiting many many nations.
3. Mexicans dont want trouble with a neighbour. And what does usa do to it in return. They us it to import slaves. Import manpower, Import brainpower, import food, and they deliberately created goons and drug lords by making few people rich and corropt. I am so happy we are not usa neighbour.
4. Colonism breeds because of business mindedness only. Not for a desire to be a famous leader of another country.
5. Bush is known for his generosity and selflessness, virtue, care for humanity, care for other countries, etc. What can i say.
6. May be you will like us to wag our tails a little and dance a bit. Your usa will like us more and may throw more crumbs.
ANY DEAL WITH USA IS BAD.
How many slaves may have died such that you were born. I pity you.


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by AK on Jul 13, 2008 09:22 AM   Permalink
US is one country that has least amount of investments in India. They have been burned several times: COKE, IBM, Union Carbide and Dabhol to name a few.

US does throw crumbs to India and India does pick it up through UN agencies.

US, as any body else, looks after its interest first.

US wants to do business through agreements and it is the choice of the other party to want to do business also.

Bush wants to leave his name in history, similarly to Nixon with China.

Outside India, USA is the best country for Indians.

Sorry you could not make it, sour grapes.

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by Vikram on Jul 13, 2008 09:59 AM   Permalink
What curbs is US throwing at India? US and other nations like it form cartels to increase the prices of goods, while nations like India suffer. Remember that, your American richness is at the cost of many empty mouths across nations like India. Shameless rat.

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by AK on Jul 13, 2008 10:13 AM   Permalink
Cheap loans, loan waivers, funds, etc.

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 08:46 AM   Permalink
1) if you don't know - the native americans enjoy more benefits today than the goras
2) americans do work hard and yes they rule economically because of the opportunities and risks they take. america would had been like india if americans didn't took any risks.
3) why just Mexico? millions of people around the world come to america for opportunities and for better life. it's not equivalent to importing slaves. you don't like to come then don't come.
4) if its' not business minded, then how do you feed 6 billion population of the world? every one has something to give and another thing to take. that's how the world works. you just want to sit tight in your house and want the food to come to you? then whoever is feeding you is business minded if not u.
5) yes, Bush is a great leader and it takes atleast 40 to 50 years for the world to realise the good things he's doing now. if you and i happen to live till that time, we'll have another discussion again.
6) i didn't know u have a tail. well, if u do .. i don't mind if u wag it or not. for sure, i don't wanna see u dance.

it's your call. how u want your future to be ... america is far better without india. if india has that self-confidence then why so many indians are flocking to come to america?

don't pity me ... i'm happy ... pity ur self and for your wisdom

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by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 10:53 AM   Permalink
No doubt USA uses every "opportunity" to exploit others in its enlitened self interest. Can any one tell me why American is sticking to Iraq now? It was a large producer of Oil after Saudi and Iran among the Opec countries. What is happening to its oil revenue? Has any one said about it, even the Western Press who criticises Bush? You know after the Gulf War, America made a profit after evicting Saddam from Kuwait! I have reason to believe that Iraq is providing yet another profitable operation in these hard times of soaring oil prices for America. Obama, if he becomes the President of USA, will reaalise this sooner than later and may thin twice before withdrawing his troops.

India needs energy but America now needs India more, to balance against China. IAEA and NSG will listen to what USA dictates. Tomorrow, if this group poses new problems at the behest of USA, the agreement with all its "safe guards",
will not be worth the paper on which it is written. Our future should not be mortgaged. We have progressed in pite of them (see the sanctions after the Pokhran blast. It may take time but we will not be left behind. So, no hurry to sign the deal now R.K.

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 11:02 AM   Permalink
you are very silly to argue that america needs india to counter china. the fact is america doesn't need any one to counter china. if you go a little more indepth - america doesn't care even if china becomes super power or not. if america is truly concerned about china, it wouldn't have helped it in the first place.

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by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 11:14 AM   Permalink
My friend, American needs no body. Do you know what happend in Vietnam? The Super Power became a pigmy. Yes. they helped China, for its own sake - give the luxury of the west to China and expose the public to their way of life, they can always get a few quislings like you to stab from back. Come on, where is Iraq Oil money going? have you got the answar?

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 11:26 AM   Permalink
you just put your foot in your mouth. I'm "your friend". it's people like you who are keeping india lying down. why don't you tell me where the iraq oil money going if you know?

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by Abhi Bhat on Jul 13, 2008 09:20 AM   Permalink
You dont know what usa will do to people who go against interest of usa. They destroy air, destroy water, destroy economy, of other countries.
usa grows by exploiting these assets of other countries. usa needs India and China to grow. India does not need usa. usa can "grow" only by exploitation.
You shud see how they treat animals and exploit for their food and pleasure hunting.
Good for you that you are so happy being slave. So my comments are not for you. They are for others who mistakenly read your post.
Sure wait for 40-50 yrs and Bush's design may bring fruits. Sun will never set in usa. And who will be then responsible for that? People like yourself.

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 09:34 AM   Permalink
what will indian govt do to people who go against the interest of india? if it just leaves them without doing anything - then ask yourself if the govt is doing it's duty?

you call exploitation ... i call it making use of opportunities and resources. just because you sit idle and don't take opportunities doesn't give you a right to call the people who take the opportunities as doing exploitation. it's your incompetence to not take opportunities.

tell me a country where meat is not served or animals are not killed for food. China which is a buddhist state and our commies masters kills anything that crawls. that doesn't make it bad.
Also, animals too have better rights in usa than in any other country. they do maintain animal courts in usa and if you excuse me - pets receive hair cuts and body washes regularly from their owners.

who's slave? come out of the slave mind set which is imposed by the mohammadean and british rule. see the world in a new spirited way and live a dignified and free life

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by Sathish N on Jul 13, 2008 09:45 AM   Permalink
If there are people in many countries eating meat, that does not mean that eating meat is correct. Eating meat by itself is not wrong. Carnivores are made such to live on meat. But, human having higher intellect should be able to just the right from wrong. Our body is not made to eat meat. It it were, we should be able to eat raw meat.

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by Sathish N on Jul 13, 2008 09:42 AM   Permalink
It is not making use of opportunity that is bad, but at what cost is want needs to be looked. Do you think amassing everything on this planet is making use of opportunity. Making life better with damaging the ecological balance is using our brain properly. Else, we are leaving a messed up earth for our future generations.

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 09:50 AM   Permalink
a poor man in india who doesn't use any technological products says that you are spoiling the planet by using technology and it's effecting him and he curses you for your karma for leaving the planet bad for his future generations. what will you answer to him? leave everything you are using and take an ascetic life? yeah, why don't you do that?

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by Sathish N on Jul 13, 2008 09:38 AM   Permalink
Very well said and that too without getting personal.

Is Bush to be blamed for the most of the situations. Partly yes. Americans have to take the majority of the blame for voting him in. And, many Indians too for blindly supporting countries which are successful economically but bankrupt morally.

Karma will catch-up with each persons doing.

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by west on Jul 13, 2008 09:45 AM   Permalink
satish and abhi - you too have to catch up for your karma partly for using the products invented by usa like electricity, computer etc and thereby helping the usa. your karma is written all over your head.

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by Sathish N on Jul 13, 2008 09:49 AM   Permalink
I agree. Karma will catch up with everyone. You are right - everyones karma is written all over each ones head.

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by Gopal on Jul 13, 2008 10:14 AM   Permalink
Some Contentious issues in Hyde act furnished
1. No freedom to handle spent fuel.
2. No guarantee for alternate fuel supply
3. India is not a technology developer but a recepient.
4. India to side with US in NPT
5. India to participate with US National Security Administration for NPT.
6. Reporting of US President on the efforts of India in containing IRAN.
7. India denied space related dual use technology
8. India denied strategic planning of nuclear programms.
9. Stopped India in the production of fissile materials.
10.No joint move for universal nuclear disarmament.
11.All future agreements are to be in consistent with this act.
Hyde act is the enabling act for the 123 agreement.
We are surrendering our sovereignty.

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