Please google on IAEA to get the DRaft version and comments by other Countries on IAEA deal.
India requires Nuclear deal there is other thoughts, but the draft of the deal is realy written very losely like not mentioning which reactor will be under the investigation and if there is interuption of fuel by 35 approved countires which will supply nuclear. If you need to buy fuel you need allways need to get it from approval countries only on there terms and conditions and if india start using it for securtiy purpose what will happen is also not discussed.
If this type of the draft goes , then we end issues like the kashimr speach in UN by Nehru and his counter parts, which created problem which we are facing it today also.
Deal is good , but the drafts needs to send a strong signals or there must be counter law in india to over rule this.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 13, 2008 11:01 AM Permalink
- India decides which reactors would be under IAEA observations.
India can not use the nuclear materials obtained from approved sources for "civilian uses" for "military purpose".
Why do you want India to divert resources obtained for "civilian use" to "military use"?
In Mumbai stock exchange if any company raises capital for a particular purpose, then SEBI rules prevent the company to "divert" the money for other uses.
As per Indian Law, if you import an Aircraft for commercial purpose, then you can not use it for private purpose. [ Recent Ambani Case.]
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And here we are talking about Nuclear Materials !!!
Why can't we just use simple logics before raising points ?
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by AK on Jul 13, 2008 11:13 AM Permalink
There is one major concern about the IAEA agreement.
Clause 10 states "Nothing in this Agreement shall affect other rights and obligations of India under international law."
India is not signatory to NPT and CTBT and thus has no rights in the International Arena. What India is doing is considered "illegal". Would India be subjected to stop this illegal activity since it has no rights.
RE:RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 13, 2008 11:57 AM Permalink
- When IAEA recognises the separation of reactors by India mean whole business is legitimate.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by All Right on Jul 13, 2008 11:31 AM Permalink
Since we have not signed the NPT or CTBT, then the clause in our advantage. We can make bombs and explode it
RE:RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by AK on Jul 13, 2008 11:45 AM Permalink
Question is our obligations under the International Laws. We sign them or not, government makes laws. Can the same analogy apply there.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by nuthan adalagerenemirajaiah on Jul 13, 2008 11:13 AM Permalink
I appricate your responds, i am not objecting the deal, what i am saying put some storng words or purticular words, in draft there must not be any ombugity words, if you see the draft the list of reactor area is totaly blank. but theses are the real question or reality we need to face towmmrow , as we don't have different lines of reactor for comerical and sentific or securtity purpose.
I would have agreed your arrugment of shares, but same law doesn't apply for other countries. that's why we need to make very clear in the document they my be coming after this draft version.
Nucelar deal is required for our growing population and development needs ASAP.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 13, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
- The vagueness is deliberate. To overcome the present political situations, past legislations and laws. That's what a good negotiation is all about. USA has deliberately left many flanks open providing India to escape. That's the master stroke of our negotiators. By opposing the deal for no good reasons, we have got unnecessary attentions to it; while it should have gone for a quiet agreement by all parties to India's favour.
Only people with vested interests or no knowledge about global political realignments or strategic tie-ups would "sabotage" this kind of agreement.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by nuthan adalagerenemirajaiah on Jul 13, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
people must be concern with the aggrement profits and minimise the error which my create in the future by this not with stupid/dum politicians.
I feel the drafts must be made aviliable to people so that every one can dicuss in health way ,not go with blind politicans way.
Govt must release the draft in all papers instead of going with the advenrtisement mode.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by nuthan adalagerenemirajaiah on Jul 13, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
If you are working for MNC office, if you want the get any aggrement document the company has done you can get has insider, but you can't use distrubute the clasified or discuss with outsiders.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 13, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
- Well for common cold you run to a doctor.
For a simple fault in your bicycle, you run to mechanics.
For a pack of samosas, you run to halwais.
For filing simple saral application, you run to a CA.
There are specialists for everything.
You and me are not specialists in Strategic alliances in Global Sphere.
I am sure your company's Managing Director does not give a copy of draft to you and others or put on the company's notice board, when he is busy negotiating a deal with a Joint Venture partner.
That's a simple commercial deal affecting only the company.
Here we are talking about strategic alliances encompassing the whole World and its Geo-politics.
That's why best brains of our country negotiated the deal.
And they got you the best deal.
Recognise the goodness in the deal.
When NDA was negotiating the deal which was far inferior and was willing to sign CTBT, did they offer you the draft?
Did they discuss in the Parliament while they were negotiating?
Did they debate on the street?
Did they ask you to validate their own draft?
Think.
Just don't fall victim to hollow word.
Use your own intellect. Use your own thinking power.
RE:RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by AK on Jul 13, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
List can be given later and it is India which has to furnish the list, NOT IAEA to tell which ones.
India can use acquired material for the plants on the list and present soucres for the rest.
RE:Draft version of IAEA - losely written
by All Right on Jul 13, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
Nuthan you correct in terms of need for a counter law. Even Advani initially suggested it and I am sure the UPA knows it as well. But there is hurry to pass it. We can bid our time until we get NSG waiver
