I think the bigger problem in this nuclear deal episode has been the way congress (yes only congress - no other party of UPA) has handled this 'deal'.
AFAIK the choice of going for the deal was never put for majority vote, no discussion too, even the parties in UPA were not taken into confidence (not that they are capable of handling the details), the 'puppet' actually went to the door of IAEA when in 'minority' ('secular' ?), surprisingly, the 'puppet' who is probably the weakest leader and who only lost his sleep on convenient matters started acting 'strong' to push the 'deal' through as if that was the most important thing had to be handled instead of soaring inflation etc., then the govt gets surprised by the IAEA when they tell the safeguards draft could be published(!), and as always we have a pro congress media praising the 'deal' when actually all we have is the safeguards 'draft' only - the agreement will only be in plac when the US masters dictate their part of draft which will actually consider Hyde act, the reactors to be 'closed', the reactors to be put under 'inspection' etc.
And finally we have 'madam' asking her slaves to 'teach' and 'explain' the deal to the people of India....
RE:Bigger problem...
by Jo Ho on Jul 12, 2008 11:28 PM Permalink
The nuclear option will not benefit India in near term as well. We have huge potential in hydel and tydal electricity generation. I wonder what forces MMS to get in to this deal. Has he taken an American citizenship already?
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by All Right on Jul 12, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Knickerwallahs and commies have changed tactics. After the deal has been put in the public domain, there is clause they can attack the government for comprising India's sovereign interests.
So tactically they attack procedures which is a matter of subjective perceptions to deflect attention of the bottom-line of the deal - Is the Deal Good for the Nation?
Former US Ambassador, Talbot his book revealed that NDA through then foreign minister, Jaswant Singh had agreed to sign NPT, sacrificing India's right to nuclear test. This without informing the nation or parliament. Now the BJP is exposed: 1. That it practiced deceit procedurallly 2. It is hypocritical since it opposes the deal citing that India's right to explode a bomb (which actually is not the case)
Omar Abdullah, who was Minister of External Affairs during NDA in tonight's Big Fight confirmed that the NDA was negotiating a similar deal. He also confirmed what they got in the deal was substantially less than what the UPA got. Most importantly, he confirmed that the NDA was prepared to sign such a deal which is distinctly worse.
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by Joy Abraham on Jul 12, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
It is not a matter of which political party you support or which religion you belong to or which religions you hate.
BJP and Congress are for this deal. But we as people without political affiliations can say if this deal is good or bad. And in my view this deal is bad for India and good for USA.
RE:Bigger problem...
by TIGER MAN on Jul 12, 2008 11:41 PM Permalink
All Right ...I KNOW CONGRESS JAY BLAA BLAA ALL THE TIME...EVEN IF YOU SAY JASWANT SINGH WAS ABOUT TO SIGN...DID HE SIGN.....SO JUST DONT BLAA BLAA ALL THE TIME ...I KNOW CONGRESS HAVE PROVED TO BE BIG LIERS...
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by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 11:53 PM Permalink
BJP have proved to biggest frauds of India. Look at what all they did 1) promised gujjars reservations 2) engineered Hogenakal issue in Karnataka 3) their ally(shiv sena) wants Hindu suicide squad 4) RSS wants swadeshi economics with globalisation reduced(along with that goes all high-paying jobs) 5) Advani took out rath-yatra in 1992 promising Ram temple which has never come blah blah blah
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by TIGER MAN on Jul 12, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
cynic ...OK BJP HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST FRAUD OF INDIA...FOR OVER 6 YEARS....HOW MANY YEARS HAVE CONGRESS BEEN A BIGGEST FRAUD AND ROBBBING INDIA...FOR OVER 55 YEARS....
RE:Bigger problem...
by cynic on Jul 13, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
I do not like both BJP and Congress, both are immature parties, but the Congress is trying to grow up. When was the last time since an Indian PM stood up for his convictions ready to sacrifice the government for what he thinks is right. But philosophy wise I like centrist secular view more than rightisht or leftist view. You gotta admit too that India was in extremely bad shape in 1947 very very poor with nothing about industrialization etc. Many many people had written off India including people who could be considered friends of India. Even today we are still a long way off from development. But congress is maturing. And do not forget that BJP has a lot of maturing still to do.
RE:Bigger problem...
by Jo Ho on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM Permalink
Dollar talks, dear. The only question is how much. The rumor is Rs 600 crores all inclusive.
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by Prakash Asrani on Jul 12, 2008 11:43 PM Permalink
Jo Ho, Have you seen 600 paisa in your life? You are talking dollars and rupees in the same sentense. Only beggers talk in the same language. Which traffic signal is your usual begging spot?
RE:Bigger problem...
by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 11:49 PM Permalink
so how much dollars have BJP received from Pakistan to stall the deal ? after all BJP loves Jinnah
