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Article 108 dangerous for India
by Joy Abraham on Jul 12, 2008 11:51 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

ARTICLE 103 of safeguards agreement is dangerous for India. Even for minor non-compliance from part of India with the safeguards agreement, IAEA can report to Security Council to take military action against India. Please read the article given below.

"103.      If the Board determines in accordance with Article XII.C of the Statute of the Agency that there has been any non-compliance by India with this Agreement, the Board shall call upon India to remedy such non-compliance forthwith, and shall make such reports as it deems appropriate. In the event of failure by India to take full remedial action within a reasonable time, the Board may take any other measures provided for in Article XII.C of the Statute."

“To make such reports as it deems fit” - is the UN language for saying "report for military action to security council".

This article 103 must be corrected to the effect that in case of non-compliance, IAEA can decide to stop or reduce further supply of nuclear material for a definite or indefinite term and the decision to be reviewed annually by IAEA.

Why? We know last year IAEA nearly recommended military action against Iran, It is a political body and if in future Indo US relation becomes bad, US can do this kind of things.


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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by Joy Abraham on Jul 12, 2008 11:51 PM   Permalink
article 103. sorry for the typo.

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 12, 2008 11:56 PM   Permalink
Joy,
Do not feel sorry. Nobody reads your messages.

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by All Right on Jul 12, 2008 11:54 PM   Permalink
      RE:Dangerous Article 103 - Lead to sanctions or Military Action against India
by All Right on Jul 12, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
India should have some integrity not to divert assistance under the deal for making bombs.

The deal provides us the right to make bombs using our technology and fuel or provided by supplier countries like Russia who do mind such assistance to be so diverted.

The US on the other hand while seeking to support our civilian program do not want such leakages. We cannot force the US to change this policy. But we can take advantage of it without causing harm to our own security needs. This all what the deal is about.

So should we stoop to imitate Iraq, only then we would have a problem with IAEA. If we comply then we should have no problems


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  RE:RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by Joy Abraham on Jul 13, 2008 12:13 AM   Permalink
If the world was so strightforward, life would have been so easy. If Future Indian govt does anything to the dislike of western countries (like Zimbabwe's Mugabe nationalising white's farms) tjhey will use this trap to slap sanctions on India or military action against India. This is the danger. ANY non-compliance can be easily found in such complex deals-not necessarily using the fuel to make bombs.

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by All Right on Jul 13, 2008 12:39 AM   Permalink
The problem with the commies that their mindset is all crocked, suspicious etc

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  RE:RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by TIGER MAN on Jul 13, 2008 12:05 AM   Permalink
All Right ...YOU ARE 100% RIGHT...INDIA SHOULD ONLY DEAL WITH RUSSIA IN NUCLEAR TECNOLOGY...USA CAN NEVER BE TERUSTED .USA HAS ALWAYS PROVIDED WITH TERRORIST PAKISTAN WITH LARGE SUMS OF ARMS AND MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR TERRORIST ACTIVITIES IN INDIA .
IN THE 1971 INDO PAK WAR....USA SENT 2 NUCLEAR WARSHIPS TOWARDS INDIA THREATINING INDIA THAT THEY WILL BOMB INDIA WITH NUCLEAR BOMBS UNTIL INDIA WITHDRAWS FROM PAKISTAN...USSR SEEING THESE USA THREATS SENT 4 NUCLEAR WARSHIPS TOWARDS THE USA ONES ...SEEING THIS THE USA QUICKLY TURNED BACK..
REALLY SPEAKING THE USA CAN NEVER BE TRUSTED...

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by Hate Who divides on Jul 13, 2008 12:13 AM   Permalink
But in agreement whatsoever in public ......... has not mentioned we can test with domestic material and facilities .................. no sanction and Millitary action for such incident .......... thats why people say agreement language is vague to make room for modification and misinterpretation which will harm India

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by alok Misra on Jul 13, 2008 12:15 AM   Permalink
The deal should not only provide us rightto explode bombs just after signing in celebration but should also ask Pakistan to surrender all its Nuclear bombs to International community just like North Korea in retaliation of its activities for spreading Bomb technologies to several nations and all its Nuclear reactors should be dismantled just as is the case with North Korea.India should be rewarded for its exmplary behaviour by asking to oversee this activity in Pakistan.We shouls ask for end to parity in American Foreign Policy between India and Pakistan on Nuclear issues

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by TIGER MAN on Jul 12, 2008 11:59 PM   Permalink
Joy Abraham ...YOU ARE 100% RIGHT THE WHOLE ONE SIDED DEAL IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR INDIA...

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by AK on Jul 13, 2008 12:01 AM   Permalink
Be Specific. What part is dangerous?

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by Joy Abraham on Jul 13, 2008 12:08 AM   Permalink
Article 103, AK.

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  RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by AK on Jul 13, 2008 12:24 AM   Permalink
When we are signing an agreement, we should know if we can ashere to its clauses. So why should we contemplate that we will break them. We are not Iraq, who signs an agreement and then breaks it on purpose.

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  RE:RE:Article 108 dangerous for India
by All Right on Jul 13, 2008 12:42 AM   Permalink
I like to add to Ak's comment, why India was conferred this agreement and Pakistan refused was that though we sign the NPT, our NPT record was impeccable while Pakistan's the worst proliferator

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