joining hands. Nothing more needs to be said about the bankruptcy of their ideas. Left is against Hindu culture, against religion and against the concept of god(religion is the opium of masses). RSS/BJP claims to represent Hindus and endeavours to reduce minorityism. There cannot be a more opportunistic and evil alliance. First Advani praises Jinnah the butcher of Hindus. Next Sudarshan praises Left, the butcher of Hindu religion
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by Bhaumik on Jul 12, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
You forget both have fundemental similarities.
Communism once were defined by Stalinism, which is not very different from the Fas8ism/ Na8ism in which the RSS' ideology has its origin. Both are anti-individualistic doctinaire ideologies.
Both were evil. Only difference is that there is hope for the left because they have gradually turned into social democrats, similar to what has happened to the left in Europe, whereas RSS/ BJP is falling more and more into the likeness of their ideological progenitors.
And ha! RSS protecting Hinduism! its an Oxymoron. They do not understand Hinduism, and are bent on destroying its essence.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by ssss on Jul 12, 2008 09:07 PM Permalink
Abey Bhaumick,
Once a Bong, always a Bong... once a Commie, always a commie... most Bongs have Chinese fathers.... so shut your mouth. Mind your mother nation: China.... India is for Indians not for the illegitimate Chinese children. Either go to Bangladesh or China to live like 3rd rate citizens.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by K K on Jul 12, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
What Advani said about Jinnah is true, whether you like it or not. It is not a question of praising Jinnah or condemning Jinnah. It is a question of telling the truth. Advani said that Jinnah wanted a secular Pakistan. That is a true statement. Advani was in fact encouraging Pakistan to become a secular state and was citing that Jinnah had made a speech wanting a secular Pakistan. The way I see it, Advani was just stating a fact. He was neither praising nor offending Jinnah. If you cannot digest the facts thats fine, but stop whining about it already!
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 12, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
LK Advani calls Jinnah secular and all his political opponents in India pseudo secular. Wah Janab what a patriot. Just trying to grab PM's chair by hook(Jinnah) or crook(Karat). Kissa Kursi Ka?
RE:RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by kitttigadu on Jul 12, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Asrani
Jinnah is secular by paki standards, Advani's opponents are pseudosecular by Indian standards, and you are a moron without any perception by any standards.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by All Right on Jul 13, 2008 05:20 AM Permalink
Asrani:
You obviously have no counter-comment to kittigadu's points..
By the way your name is also very idiotic.... Angrezon ke zamaane ke jailor... ha ha .. Aadhe idhar jao aadhe udhar jao baaki mere peechche aao.. :-) :-)
Dinno Kittigadu had done anything so idiotic ... [Since you can become unnecessarily personal, everyone on this forum can do the same you little Asrani]
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 09:00 PM Permalink
which fact is more of relevance for India ? that Jinnah inspired speeches butchered Hindus or that he wanted to create a secular Pakistan. Anyhow the BJP sort of wants to create a Hindu rashtra, so isn't it stupid to expect Pakistan to become secular.
RE:RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by K K on Jul 12, 2008 09:16 PM Permalink
Cynic, it is absolutely a smart thing to encourage Pakistan to secularize. America has also been asking them to do the same. And guess what, they are now revamping the madrassas. They may not secularize. Ultimately they may need to be bombed out. Until then nothing wrong in trying. In any case, you just a anti-hindu cynic. Your hatred for BJP, RSS, and Hindus is deeply ingrained in you.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
I am a Hindu dude, I do not subscribe to RSS/BJP ideology of physically eliminating minorities like in Gujarat.
RE:RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by kitttigadu on Jul 12, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
How sad, there are no more minorities left in Gujarat. How do you feel about the "minorities" burning 65 Hindus alive.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by R K on Jul 12, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
u did not read the article. that is what ur comment says. it is not a praise of left or their ideals. but what is the reason forced them to pull out of the alliance. is it wrong to come with a correct assesment? anyway RSS did it in their mouthpiece and that is for the staunch RSS cadres and to guide them in helping BJP to power in the coming elections. they did a great work. They did not claim this infront of the so called secular press for publicity, that has to be appreciated. you seem to be too cynical.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by viswanatha seshadri on Jul 12, 2008 08:46 PM Permalink
You are right. There is an absolute bankruptcy of honesty in all sectors of indian politics. All our politicians are only time-serving self-power-seekers.
RE:RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
true, but there are some good personalities out there. I was especially happy that Rahul Gandhi is completely pro-deal. This is how you stand by your ideals even during crunch times, not like how BJP released terrorists who have later on butchered lots of innocent Hindus as well as Muslims lol.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by Ram Sharma on Jul 12, 2008 09:10 PM Permalink
BJP & Left r the only parties, which hv some principles. all others r either controlled personally like SP (Mulayam), TC (Mamata), AIADMK (Jailalitha), BJD (Navin Patnaik), BSP (Mayawati), RLD (Ajit Singh), NCP (Sharad Pawar) etc. or controlled by a dynasty like Congress (Sonia Parivar), JD (S) (Devegouda Parivar), RJD (Lalu Parivar), Shiv Sena (Bal Thakre Parivar), Akali (Badal Parivar), NC (Farook Abdulla Parivar), DMK (Karunanidhi Parivar) etc.
Why do u want RSS not to tell the truth? Whatever is mentioned in the article is fully correct. The alliance between Congress & Left was fully opportunistic, now that with Mulayam even more opportunistic. What is the reason for rushing for the deal, when the next President will also sign the deal as it is very lucrative for their businessmen? Why MMS did not hurry up earlier, if the deal was so good?
As regards Jinnah, what Advani had said that Jinnah had said in Pakistan Parliament that the country should b secular. What is wrong in telling the truth? Advani did not say that Jinnah was not responsible for partition.
RE:RSS/BJP and Left
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 12, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
Ram Sharma, Kuch to SHARM KARO.Suddenly left bashers have become left lovers? Now Leftists have become pro-India. Earlier, like you there have been many left bashers on rediff who have gone to ultimate extent calling leftists as commies, anti-national, Chinese chamchas and what not, etc.,etc, etc. Now that Chief knickerwala has praised them, it would be in fitness of things that all such left bashers on rediff lick all the vomit they have poured on leftists or better still drown in their own vomit. Please confirm which option you have selected
