I have noted a very strange thing, i may be wrong, but this is my understanding, that pakistan was created with the sole intention that hindus could have one country to themselves, and muslims to themselves and can live peacefully as neighbours if not brothers, by that same logic, if you see any pakistani on a TV channel or any programme, it can be an actor, or comedians from pakistan they always refer to our country as "HINDUSTAN" never as INDIA or BHARAT, but the same cannot be said of our so called secular politicians, who never dare call our country as HINDUSTAN, even Nehru in his book referred to our country as "HINDUSTAN", though i cannot say the same about his italian descendents.
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by Ghanta on Jul 13, 2008 12:03 PM Permalink
Historically, i.e before the advent of i$lam $#it , this land was know as Bharat only, hindu / india are words coined by foreigners to this great land.. hence wherever you go, please refer to this country as Bharat and not India/Hindustan etc
RE:RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by nalini singh on Jul 13, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
Sorry you are wrong, the word HIndustan comes from SINDHU and Stan (place), which translated means the land on the other side of the sindhu, it never meant land meant for the HINdus, though in persian Sindhu means HIndu. So historically this land was knows as HIndustan, if your claim that before the advent of islam was bharat, then Akbar the great also called this land as hindustan. they were not coined by foreigners
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by GRJ on Jul 15, 2008 11:06 AM Permalink
For the external world it was Sindh-stan ....for ETHNIC INDIANS ( LOCALS ) it was Bharat ruled by king Bharata....so as Maurya, Chola etc., etc.,
Dont worry about it but dread the Invaders and Invasions and dont mix with them they will take but not give....same in the case of N DEALS....Can any other country like Iran or china or Russiaa give us a better deal ??? with Their hair in your hand ???
Use market or street wisdom.
No giver of assurance will give his hair into your hands....Like rescuing a drowning man is better done holding hair bu not hugging as in Indian movies.....Both will drown. !!! Think !
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by mumbai on Jul 13, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Have you asked this question to great politicians like advani, vajpaye, etc.? do they have answers? they are fighting for the (cheating in the name of) hindu cause. So you ask this this question to them and publish theri answer. your doubt will be cleared.
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by pjothilingam on Jul 13, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
madam nalini singh, It is true that the subcontinent was partitioned to create Pakistan comprising of muslim majotity areas.Our aging politicians meekly accepted this political decision to be able govern what is now Bharat.The only problem with Pakistan is the Kashmir issue, which again lingers because of our mishandling the matter.But look at China:every now and then they are adding new indian territories as disputed areas and later claiming them as their own.At this rate,they may even start claiming the whole of Assam and the entire northeast as their territory very soon.It is therefore statesmanship to accomodate Pakistan by implementing any legally binding international obligations.We can forge a friendship treaty with Pakistan.That will leave us free to face the real challenge posed by China.In this context the nuke deal is ill advised,as energy security or any other security, cannot take precedence over national security.Can anyone even imagine any country, including the US,to involve itself directly in armed confrontation on the side of india,if we are in a war or warlike situation with China?The US and the European Union have lot more economic stakes in China than in India, and this will dictate policy.So,we should become mighty ourselves,not just economically but militarily as well.Remember that China grew military muscles simultaneously while growing economic muscles.
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by patriotsunite on Jul 13, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
nalini, India is an anglicized version of Hindustan. The name India, Hindu, Hindustan comes from the river 'Indus'. Essentially, the people living beyond the river Indus were called Hindus. Now, religion wise, Hinduism is essentially an all encompassing religion. During the last two centuries, there has been attempts to correctly interpret Hinduism to its founding Vedic principles (essentially one God, many forms, God exists in all, whether good or bad). Most of these fundamentals have so much in common with Christianity and Islam. There has been people taking advantage of a more narrow outlook on Hinduism. That is not surprising(that is the nature of man). Same can be said about any other religion. Final point, Hindustan though literally means 'land of Hindus' does not mean land of people who follow Hinduism. It means, land of people who live beyond Indus. I am a Christian. I have every right to the soil as any Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Jain or whatever. And I have every duty to defend it too.
RE:RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by patriotsunite on Jul 13, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
One more point, Pakistan was created for Muslims to have a sole country for themselves. On the other hand, India was founded as a secular republic. Hindus, Christians, Muslims, and all other nationalities are welcome here.
RE:hindustan - or Bharat
by nalini singh on Jul 13, 2008 12:12 PM Permalink
Well I am please with your answer, i am with you when you say it was a secular republic, and i am also with you when you say that all the communities are welcome here to stay and prosper in peace, that is what i say why not have equality for all than have minority and majority reservations, if you read the posts of Ajit Mohammed, he writes all muslims are united for the sake or reservation to minorities, if this is a secular republic and all the parties claim themselves as secular why this minority and majority drama,
