Our country is developing (8 -9 %)which is faster than growth of USA UK Europe and most other countries. Why the US loves us so much now? What did they give us when we were poor and struggling even for food? They sent the 7th fleet ships to attack us during 1971 Bagladesh war. Ony because of Indira Gandhi's courage they could do nothing and went back. You all want to fall at their feet now? What did they do to help us when we were fighting for freedeom from the slavery of British? Now we are becoming rich and so they want to include us in their club. we can stand on our feet and move forward without falling at the feet of USA who never helped us in time of real need.
RE:Remember history
by cynic on Jul 09, 2008 08:50 PM Permalink
both need each other. US also needs China as well as the other way round. Without cheap Chinese imports and cheap Indian labours, lot of US companies would have struggled to maintain profits and growth.
RE:RE:Remember history
by cynic on Jul 09, 2008 08:51 PM Permalink
and of course without US and other industrialized countries help, India as well as China would have suffered.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Remember history
by Joy Abraham on Jul 09, 2008 09:05 PM Permalink
India and China developed on their own - not due to help from USA or Europe. Europe kept us slaves for over a century until 1947- that what they did my friend.
RE:Remember history
by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
you seem to have forgotten that *Green revolution* in 1960s was initiated with the help of US money and technology. You seem to have forgotten that all IT jobs are a result of US companies coming to India or US companies outsourcing to Indian companies like Infosys. No other country treats Indians as well as US does. Look at UAE, Dubai mistreat Indians and you would know the story.
RE:Remember history
by Joy Abraham on Jul 09, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
Green revolution was purely Indian scientists achievement and US had absolutely no role in it - with technology or money. IT jobs are not a gift it is normal business of buying and selling. Because we are good at a job and cheap companies from many countries use that. Its no favour from USA. Would you say that all our imports from USA is a gift of India to USA. Thats busines man. I agree US people treats not only Indians but other foreigners also decently - its not a favour to India alone. After all these Indians are US citizens and so you deserve equal treatment.
RE:Remember history
by Truth BeTold on Jul 09, 2008 09:01 PM Permalink
Joy, its better to keep your mouth shut (or hands tied) rather than open it let the entire world know that you are a stupid. Growing at 8-9% when you are $ 900 billion economy is much easier than growing at 3-4% as a $13 trillon economy. I dont wish to lecture you on the benefits that we have received from US but its a reality that the green revolution was helped and started by the US. Our first computer was also donated by the US in 1955. The list goes on but I think you will get my point.
RE:RE:Remember history
by Joy Abraham on Jul 09, 2008 09:09 PM Permalink
Why you are afraid of my mouth speaking? If you think USA is interested in developing Indian economy, nobody can lecture you. When India was poor like beggers they gave some alms as charity. If you give one rupee to a begger in the street, or give one of your old watches to him, do you expect the begger to remember you and be thankful to you forever?
RE:Remember history
by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
*green revolution* is not US giving us some charity, it was to avert a crisis you fool. Why should US develop Indian economy, at the most they can help us if we ask, or provide some money or technology. Look I am not a big US fan or I don't say just do everything the US asks us also I know the US has done some shady things in the past, but definitely the deal is good for India as well as US.
RE:Remember history
by Calspadeaspade on Jul 09, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Abraham, I respect your views. But just because US did not help us in the past does not mean they dont want good relations with INdia. We all have heard there are no permanent friends or enemies but permanent interests. Now there is a possibility there is mutual benefits. MMS will not sign some thing if there is no advantage for INdia. We can say many things against him but he is no fool and like any other leaders(including BJP) he has India's interest in his heart. He has nothing to gain personally.The world situation today is such that US has recognized India's worth. They want India as a deterrent to China. Which suits INdia also. There are 2 views on this nuclear deal. Each view has its merits. But it will be a good thing if India ties up with the US.
