India needs US more than the US needing India. The media has created such a grandoise illusion of India's achievements that we think of ourselves as a self sustaining organism. Most of our exports are still tied to the US and whatever trade we have with China or any other country for that matter, directly or indirectly ends in the US. So its good to generate readership by publishing such sensational headlines and stoke pseudo patriotism but the reality is very different.
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by Sanjay on Jul 09, 2008 09:34 PM Permalink
Truth be told, America needs desperately India. It is dependent on India's scientist and engineers. It is dependent on the ever growing India Markets to sell its goods. It desperately needs India to fight its wars.
American is not the same it use to be. It is now a tiny country of 300 million, who lack of man power, educated people makes it desperate to do all kind of subversion operation. Like making India the dumping ground for nuclear waste, putting all or most of our reactors under inspection in order to steal our technology. Like we are the only country in the world to have a reactor since the 1990’s to be running U-233 a fuel derived from thorium. I am against inspection when Pakistan and china are not putting any of their nuclear plants under international inspection, while we have been under sanction from the USA. Pakistan continues to receive support and aid from USA. It seems to a way of stopping our nuclear program putting it under inspection when we have advanced to stage where we are about to be world leaders and may be able to export our technology elsewhere.
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by Truth BeTold on Jul 09, 2008 11:45 PM Permalink
Sanjay, you are welcome to leave in your coocoo land and believe what you want. World is a lot different when you step outside.
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by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
In fact what Sanjay is right. You are the one who is living in lala land. Indians are contributing trumendously to the American economy. They don't even create trouble like some other groups.
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by Vikram on Jul 09, 2008 09:01 PM Permalink
India's markets mostly cater to domestic needs and it's less export/import oriented compared to a nation like China. But I agree with you that USA for now constitutes a bulk of India's foreign trade. There is no pseudo-patriotism if one is proud of one's nation, but baseless abuse against USA doesn't make much sense either.
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by Truth BeTold on Jul 09, 2008 09:07 PM Permalink
Thanks for the comments Vikram. My whole point is that we are drifting towards a Nationalistic society (Remember Nazis?) which is proud to the level of arrogance. In the globalised world of today, no one can survive by themselves.
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by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 09:20 PM Permalink
Nationalism is essential for any country to survive. The country has to safeguard its interests. Nazism was based of supremacy of one race over other. Talk to Americans and see the degree of nationalism in them.
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by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
Talk to Americans and see if they are paranoid about natiolism as we are. Man do not compare India with US, US has way more freedom than India does or will ever have.
RE:Like it or not
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 11:49 PM Permalink
Americans are paranoid about others nationalist like Russians, chinese, Japanese. They are glad about their own nationalism. In fact their nationalism means screwing rest of the world, almost like Nazis. There are only a few sane Americans in responsible position who are level headed.
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by Cool Customer on Jul 09, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
What an absurd and obnoxius comparison. How is Nationalism equitable to Nazism. Nazism has a foundation in differing philosophy- Materialism. Of the beleif that some are created supreme. Not by virtue of achevements, but by birth. Dig history, man. Read philosophy and its principles before making such wild and shameful allegation.
A nation's pride does not equate to preference of a race or origin. A nation's pride stems from self esteem. Indian's have acheived substantially to garner respect and esteem. You differ, thats fine. But dont impose your sorry esteem and call all of us who love and pride our country to be potential Nazi's. What an absolute twit! Get a life.
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by Truth BeTold on Jul 09, 2008 11:44 PM Permalink
Cool Customer, do you even know what "Nazi" stnads for? It stands for Nationalistic Socialism. Not tell me how its different in India. I think you should familiarize with the Nazi era and see what I am talking about.
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by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
I think you some loose screws that you cannot see the difference between Nazis and India. India is one of the freest country in the world, in fact too free. In fact it is so free that even terrorists roam freely and an Italian runs the puppet government.
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by Truth BeTold on Jul 09, 2008 11:58 PM Permalink
I can see who lost the screws just because I dont agree with your opinion. India is free? North Indians cant work in Mumbai, South Indians hate north Indians, Northies hate South Indians. Women are treated as subjects rather than human beings. YES INDIA IS FREE INDEED.
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by Cool Customer on Jul 10, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
Truth Be Told Let us test your depth out. Wikepedia must have helped you with a quick reference, eh? 1. Having the word 'nationalistic' doesnt make all feelings of nationalism the same. 2. The root problem with Nazism was not nationalism. IT was the philosophy/beleif. Philosophy that had its roots in the philosphy of Friedrich Nietzsche.
The root led to beleif in the supeririority of Aryan Race. He even tried to doctor scientific evidences by doing strange experiments and research in Nepal during British India to prove that they originated from the Aryan race. If you are a good artist, it is not wrong to pride your work. If you are part of a school where good art is taught, it is not wrong to pride in being a prt of the Institution. If you are part of a country, that produces good artists, it is not wrong to pride in your nation. However, it is wrong to consider that since you are a good artist, you are orn and destined to lead. And that some nation and people deserve to be absued and even killed because they are not great artists. THAT is the Nazi philosphy. What part of the philosphy do you find in Indian nationalism?
There is no reason to be ridiculous to prove a point on people being over passionate or socialist while being nationalist. That concern can be demonstrated in its own merit.
