RE:Come on guys where are you all
by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
Faridy do the truth hurt so that you report abuse, the fact is bitter. Accept that you are illegitimate there is no point in cribbing. What ever you are I pity you and may be I can understand but when you come up with silly notions then there is no options left to say the truth.
RE:Come on guys where are you all
by raju on Jul 07, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
Shaker let me explain you how muslims are muslims in india.Islam literally means "Submission or surrender to the will of Almighty GOD" and "mu" in arabic is like a verb.so mu islam=muslim i.e. person who submits or surrender himself to the will of Almighty GOD and who obey his laws.So a person whether he lives in arab ,europe or india can be a muslim.Kafir in arabic simply means"non muslim".Hindu means a person living near indus river.so it means a muslim is a geographical hindu too.Like in arab country a christian is also an arab, jew is also arab and hindu(10% of native omanis are idol worshippers)is also arab.According to swami vivekanand the religion should be vedantist not hinduism.Ved comes from the root word of vidya meaning knowledge I hope my brother shaker will now analyse and understand it in a better way.Assalamualaikum to all(Peace be on all) who read it and take it in positive way.
RE:Come on guys where are you all
by p c on Jul 07, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
Raju, really appreciate your response and agree wholeheartedly with you. Insha-allah.
RE:Come on guys where are you all
by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 08:11 PM Permalink
Raju I accept what all you have said, but that is not what I meant, even though the majority of them got converted to Islam here in Southeast Asia by virtue of Rape and Knife point, which no one disputes. How come they say that Hindus are blah blah. Do they have any right. These people do not know how they come to be Muslims. I wrote in my previous post that I do accept if Arabs talk then there is meaning and you silly Raju started explaining thing as if I do not know anything. Come on Raju grow up.
RE:RE:Come on guys where are you all
by mehboob mhate on Jul 08, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
Dear Shaker, Islam was never spread by Knife(Sword) OR by force in any manner. Instances 1)De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8): writes "History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated." 2)Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian. 3)The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword. 4)Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? 5)Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHA
