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by rediff reader on Jul 08, 2008 05:36 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Very sorry for those who were killed

No God fearing person will go around killing others in the name of religion.

Two crimes are committed here:
1. Murder
2. Blasphemy (Murder in God's name)

This Sunday at least five or six "God bless America" songs were sung with such great patriotism in my church. I was wondering the whole time about India. Why we do not have this kind of love and pride for our nation.

When so many people join together and with all sincerity pray to the Almighty singing, “God bless America”, God will surely bless that nation.

Hope someday we will all stand shoulder to shoulder and pray “God bless India”



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by Devavrata Satya on Jul 08, 2008 06:48 AM   Permalink
Mr. rediff reader,

Many God-fearing persons will indeed go around killing others in the name of religion, because they believe that their god will be pleased by that. Murder in god's name is not blasphemy, not worshipping that god is. And those committing that blasphemy are fair targets.

Many Indians also sing patriotic songs on indepedence day and republic day and many also have love and pride for the nation.

Many American people must have joined together and prayed to your god for a long time - did that prevent 9/11?

The fact is that there is no supernatural god to listen to prayers and intervene in this world based on that.

If everything happens as per god's will, and god has a plan, isn't it audacious to expect that his will and his plan should be changed because of the prayer of someone who himself says that he is full of sin? Think about it.

Thanks.

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by rediff reader on Jul 08, 2008 12:07 PM   Permalink
Dear Satya,

I disagree with you on two accounts.

1. I believe that God exists and He draws closer to those who seek Him. Until 5 years ago, I thought that God was some distant entitiy who did not care about me. I suffered from a painful spine problem called "Spondylitis". When someone mentioned to me that Jesus will heal every one who asks (not just the so called super spiritual people), and one day while praying I felt someone touch me and all pain left me instantly. You may decide not to believe it. I am fine with that. But I am pain free and need not take those strong pain killers that I had to take each day for 18 years.

2. I pray to God banking on His mercy and not based on my sinless nature. If God decides not to hear the prayers of sinful men, then not even one person's prayers will be heard.

I cannot say this for sure. But sometimes enemies are allowed to take upper hand if a nation sins too much. 9/11 could be a result of this or it could be that God chose to allow the freewill of those terrorists. God is in control but He does allow some extent of freewill.

Sometimes I wonder why he saves some people who attempt suicide while sometimes He allows some to die exercising their freewill.

If everything can be understood of God, He is not much of a God isnt He?

Pls feel free to disagree. I have my views, you have yours.

Have a nice day. God bless.




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by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 09:37 AM   Permalink
Stupid Americans are surviving because of bright, innovative immigrants and plenty of natural resources that they have. US is behind all western nations in key human development indicators only because of its jingoistic patriotism and majority of people believing in god unlike most of the other western democracies. For India - a better model is France or Germany .

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