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a simple contradiction
by parimal samir on Jul 08, 2008 03:30 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

The author has written that left parties have changed their pro Soviet or pro China stand to a pro India one since 1960s onwards. I hope the author remembers the reason for division of communist party into CPI and CPI-M based upon their loyalty to either Soviet Union or China, respectively. Or later support by CPI to emergency during Indira regime because Soviets instructed them so. Even more recently the left parties used their clout in a port project in Andhra Pradesh. Govt of India had refused the work permits to 1000 China nationals, working for a Chinese company, citing India has enough qualified workforce. The left parties using their collective clout forced Govt of India (of course this UPA govt)to issue them the work permits. I am not a supporter of any party, but there is one party for which I have a pathological hatred (you may refer me to a good psychiatrist)and they are communists. I really support their philosophy and in fact was a member of AISA. But these guys are good for nothing wannabes concerned about China (Soviet is no there so they do not have other choice) more than that for India. You may say anything good about left parties and I will accept it (We have freedom expression in India!!!!), but please do not call them nationalists. We cannot group these clowns together with the likes of Bhagat Singh, Ashfaque Ulla Khan, Azad, Rajguru and others. It will tantamount to calling these freedom fighters as traitors.

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  RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 09:25 AM   Permalink
Among the freedom fighters you have named, there is none who is a Bengali, although 95 percent of the freedom fighters were Bengalis, who also have founded every political parties whether Congress or Jana Sangh or CPI.


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  RE:a simple contradiction
by parimal samir on Jul 08, 2008 09:26 PM   Permalink
please do not go into regional sentiments. I have utmost respect for Bengal's contribution to Indian freedom struggle. I just wanted to make a point about nationalism of communists. Regarding foundation of congress, please do not forget that it was supposed to act as a safety valve for colonists so that emotional pressures developed due to the injustice meted out the masses would result in another 1857. Jansangh parent organizations Hindu Mahasabha and RSS, and CPI/CPIM supported the colonists during the Quit India Movement. If you want to cite Bengal's contribution to freedom struggle you should mention the names of Jatindranath Das, Subhas Chandra Bose, Bankim Chandra and the likes.

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  RE:a simple contradiction
by prakash mehta on Jul 08, 2008 12:30 PM   Permalink
dont confuse Bengali with comminist. Here out discussion is about communist cartoons who destroyed a superb poentially economic superpower state that is Bengal

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  RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 02:37 PM   Permalink
Bengal was destroyed in 1947 when most vile anti-Bengalis Gandhi-Nehru took over India.


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  RE:a simple contradiction
by rajorshi on Jul 08, 2008 03:15 PM   Permalink
That is the typical age old and lame Communist excuse....Communists are like pigeons with eyes shut when it comes to analyzing their acts...which, ofcourse, is a saga of human rights violation and distribution of poverty and conspiracy theories woven into the fabric of historical and dialectical materialism...

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  RE:a simple contradiction
by Shyam on Jul 08, 2008 09:47 AM   Permalink
I fully endorse your views. These are fit for nothing guys, all the time think of China and Russia, never bother about India. In the States ruled by them, the fate of public is much worse and they do pretty nothing to improve it. Rather they expect the entire country to suffer like those States.

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  RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 17, 2008 11:42 AM   Permalink
Quit India movement was opposed by Ambedkar, Savarkar, RSS, Hindu Mahasava, and Gandhi himself, who disassociated himself from the movement only after 4-5 days. Thereafter Gandhi, Nehru, Patel were having regular meetings with the Vice Roy to design how to fight the Azad Hind Fauz. Ambedkar was a member of the Vice-Roy's war council.
CPI made the mistake to trust the British Communist Party who advised CPI to oppose the Quit India Movement. But there was no such instructions from the Soviet Communist Party, because Azad Hind Sarkar was recognized by the Soviet Union and there was a consulate of Azad Hind Sarkar in Omsk city. During 1942 CPI was not allowed to have any contact with the Soviet Union, but allowed only to have contact with the British Communist Party, who mislead them.



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