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MMS needs his name in the History Books !!!
by desikan r on Jul 05, 2008 10:16 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Mr MMS had managed to become the PM thru sheer luck and providence. After being remote controlled by his Italian Madam all these years, he's now trying to book his place under the sun. He doesnt even bother if the Govt were to fall. Unfortunately the Cong has no choice but to back him. Hence they get into these pathetic alliances with SP etc. who have no scruples.
And is there any doubt as to who would be the biggest beneficiary? Obviously only the US. Why has the US suddenly decided to supply Nuke fuel to us?? Bcoz they realised that India wudnt sign the NPT/CTBT and it is India thats grown stronger over the years. So best is to make money out of us so that they cud fund their own reactors and also enforce the NPT/CTBT restrictions on us on the sly!! It wud be surprising if the US would clear the deal without restrictions of the Hyde Act.
And MMS would be least bothered. How wud it concern him or his Madam if India cannot do a nuc test without being subjected to sanctions? And today the nuke deal has become more important to the PM than the spiralling inflation and crashing markets. And he seems to be in undue hurry too!! And a lot seems to be happenning hush-hush about the deal.
Few basic questions-
- Can Indian survive without the uranium from USA?
- How much would it cost us?
- How much would our energy situation improve?
- Do we have the processing technology or not?
- Can we conduct a nuke test if need be?
- Will the next US govt support the deal?

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by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 10:25 PM   Permalink
What so legitimate about BJP's demand. They object to the deal on the specious argument that it does not permit us to test our nuclear weapons.

The operating word is in the event of nuclear testing. Even here the agreement provides an exception - the right to test if China or Pakistan tests.

No one in the nuclear community believes any more for the need to physically test. They now test through computer simulation using past test data.

This is the reason why Vajpayee government shrewdly went for a series of explosions (5 to be precise) - to generate such a data base.

Having done that Vajpayee gave an assurance to the world through his address to the General Assembly of the UN that India no longer needs to explode any nuclear devise.

So if we are take BJP's present position seriousily, was Vajpayee and BJP in 2000 lying to the world community?

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by desikan r on Jul 05, 2008 10:39 PM   Permalink
Any reason why we are so opposed to NPT and CTBT? Bcoz we do not want anyone to impose a ban on testing on us. We have a self imposed moratorium. And we know what it means. We and only we will decide if we need to conduct a nuke test or not. And what database are you talking about? The US has conducted hundreds of nuclear tests over 40-50 years. Can we even remotely compare our database to theirs? Or would they part with that data if we dont conduct any test ourselves? We wouldnt know if our computer simulations are actual , ideal probable, possible or unreal. Whom do we consult then? The US? They havent been even remotely fothcoming over the last six decades. Its not Cong or BJP, UPA or NDA. There shall be a Nuke deal and in the near future. But why the hurry and the secrecy? Isnt it something of national importance that everyone be taken into confidence? Can any compromise on any issue be struck with the US without the approval of the Parliament or the people?

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by TheOneAndOnly on Jul 05, 2008 11:15 PM   Permalink


Every New Technological Advancement will Mean a New System and New Variables in the Simulator.

There fore, Every Advancement in Technology will Require New Nuclear Testing.

Forced Ban on Testing is Curtailment of our Sovereignity.

USA knows 105 methods of Atom Bombs. India Knows only 3.

A more cheaper and sophisticate Method means New System for Simulation And New Tests will be Required.

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by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 10:41 PM   Permalink
can you tell me we done test in 1998 with what?? Uranium or Plutonium ........1974 was was using Plutonium ......... can we use data of plutonium explosion for Uranium explosion ............... well if you know pls answer

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by desikan r on Jul 06, 2008 12:24 AM   Permalink
It was plutonium again along with one thermo-nuclear device. The thermonuclear device or the Hydrogen bomb was only a partial success and would definitely need to be tested again to make any relevant repor/ conclusion. Would the nuke deal allow that??

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by Sastry on Jul 05, 2008 10:57 PM   Permalink
The former PM's word is obviously applicable so long as there is no change in the circumstances. But what happens in the future is not something that we can be sure of in the present. What if there is a new technology that gets developed which necessitates a test? When majority of our facilities are bound by international treatises and pacts ( which ofcourse will be solely interpreted by the US) where should we go? And personally the only quality of MMS is his loyalty to Cong High command. Remember that he did not even show the minimum respect that the former PM late PV deserved on whose account he had the opportunity to be the FM and finds himself nominated as PM today. Who knows if he is letting his masters make a fortune? Why should he be so silent on the issue when he shoots his mouth of relatively simpler problems like the recent petrol price hike?

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