the hype surrounding the n-deal that it being a panacea which would solve all our energy problems os all trash perpetrated by malicious people under the cia's payroll.
1. Uranium can only be used in the generation of electricity. Whereas oil imported by us is used in transportation field. So, the nuclear reactors even after being set will no way reduce our dependence on oil. It would only lead to supplanting coal,gas currently being used to generate electricity.
2.World over, construction of nuke reactors is diminishing. So, the business involved in them are under heavy loses. That explains them pressuring the US govt to find them a market to sell their products in india.
3.Uranium prices have increased 10 fold in the last 6 years, much less than oil speculation. Infact uranium prices are monopolistic controlled by a few cartel of govts. That is uranium prices can go up and down drastically at the whims and fancies of this small cartel.
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:06 AM Permalink
1. good point, but we need more electricity and we either need coal or hydro or nuclear ... I think nuclear is a better option ... it's cheaper than coal and produces zero greenhouse gases
2. Yes, they were coming down when other sources of energy were cheap and when global warming wasn't considered a threat and nuclear radiation was a big danger. Today cost of fossil fuels is rising. The damage to environment from fossil fuels is alarming and so the world is moving towards cleaner alternatives.
3. Uranium prices are actually falling
4. There is enough Uranium to last over 1500 years ... it is just that cost of excavation of that Uranium would be more ... but as time passes, more Uranium sources may be found and more Uranium may be cheaply available.
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
as if we are not reeling under sky-high crude, u want to import costlier nuke technology. Ur factually wrong on two points.
1.Cost of electricity produced from coal is half of that produced by nukes...from coal its about 119 and for nukes its about 220 rs/kW or something...not exactly sure of the units used though...u can google it...
2.uranium prices have GONE UP. its price is totally determined by the G8 monopoly when compared to oil where atleast u have many more players who can determine its price
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:19 AM Permalink
1. absolutely wrong ... coal power (energy) costs 9 cents per kWh and nuclear power costs 6 cents per kWh. are you from IITM? and you do not know that kW is a unit of power and not energy. LOL
2. they may have gone up, but they are coming down
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:28 AM Permalink
u can refer brahma chellany's article in yesterday's eco times where he has mentioned the rates i posted here...and by the looks of it, u dont have what it takes to counter his facts
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:33 AM Permalink
ha ha ha .. first someone who can't digest facts and has lost the ability to argue, flags my message for abuse .... and now you accuse me that I don't have what it takes to counter the facts. You yourself have not shown credibility in the data that you put in. what kinda argument do you want from others.
The guy from IIT doesn't know his units ... God know what kinda material gets past JEE these days. It's pathetic!
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 02:14 AM Permalink
ha ha ha ... LOL there are so many idiots loitering here who are utterly unaware of the diff between maths and electric stuff.... the point is, u havent studied beyond high school coz of which ur unable to think beyond it and its clear u have hit a glass ceiling... people in higher education will understand what u need to know and what is not required...
kyon yaar 10th mein kitni baar fail hua tha....abhi bhi high school chemistry ke baare mein sochta rehta hai
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:44 AM Permalink
I said someone ... you mistook it for yourself .. tereko angrezi naheen aati kyaa? units mein toh tu goal hai, malum hai. Kyaa angrezi mein bhee goal hai.
computer science mein kyaa tereko principles of electrical engineering naheen padhana padhta? lyaa tujhe buss bits and bytes hee pata hai ... aur koi units naheen malum tujhe .... kul ko bolega liquid measure karne ka kyaa unit hota hai .. malum naheen .... abbe kWh toh high school mein padha dete hein ... isiliye mein bola patha naheen aajkal JEE kaise kasie log pass kurr lete hein.
waise tu computer science ka banda bhee naheen lagta ... tera logic bahut week hai! LOL
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:40 AM Permalink
ur the epitomy of buffonery. If i ever wanted to report u for abuse, i could have flagged ur posts smacking of ur love for fart, nuthead. and regarding iit, a guy from computer science does not have to know abt electrical stuff...i can understand its tough for ignorant folk like u to differentiate...
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 02:05 AM Permalink
ha ha ha ... tu balak mujhe intelligent systems and algorithm research kyaa batayega .... tu toh abhee bachcha hai ....
abbe dhakkan, high school ka basic stuff bhee kabhee koi bhoolta hai? tu kyaa pythogorus theorem bhool jayega ek din? cone ka volume nikalna bhool jaayega kyaa? distance velocity, mass, acceleration ke formule bhool jayega kyaa? 2 plus 2 bhee bhool jayega kyaa?
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
mujhe toh lagta hai kee 10th mein tu zaroor fail hua hai kyonkee tereko kuchh bhee aatta naheen hai ... tereko toh units bhee naheen patta aur IIT kaa naam badnamm karta hai ...tere jaise log IIT purr kalank hein ... nakal maart kurr JEE paas kurr lete hein yaa phir aarakhshan kote se IIT pahunch jaate.
sharamn kurr, doob murr ... IIT kaa naam kyon kharab karta hai ... naam badal le ... viper theek hai ... kyokee tu saanp kee biradari kaa hee hai.
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:53 AM Permalink
ur still living in the world of high school stuff. ever heard of intelligent systems and algorithm research in the field of CS ?? u dont need to know the high school or electrical stuff to do what i m doing.... u can revel in ur glory of being a genius at high school stuff...good for u .. LOL
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by prabhat mohanty on Jul 06, 2008 01:14 AM Permalink
- You almost sounded as if Oil would be used for electricity apart from transportation !!!
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:23 AM Permalink
electricity is used for transporation .... most rail routes are now electric power driven ... abundance of electricity will reduce our dependence on diesel fuel for railways.
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by prabhat mohanty on Jul 06, 2008 03:52 AM Permalink
- You are right. Though most of the routes are already electrified. Just few in North East that runs Diesel Loco.
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by singularity on Jul 06, 2008 01:16 AM Permalink
don't worry then we will have nuclear fussion.nuke deal for now.to make ecnomy grow at 10%.and get rid off poverty soon.2095 ....give me a break
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by Hate Who divides on Jul 06, 2008 12:56 AM Permalink
Here all are nuts nobody except few understand this .............they just want N Deal never try to understand and just go on writing stupid comment without justification
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
even i was for n-deal till yesterday, but there was an article by brahma chellany in economic times editorial yesterday which opened my eyes. just thought to share some points here, hopefully enlighten some of u.
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
ha ha ha ... yesterday, you had a change of heart .... and so today you have begun to fart.
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:09 AM Permalink
as long as u put ur face near my ass to smell it, i will continue to do it :D
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by IITMViper on Jul 06, 2008 01:23 AM Permalink
feeling bad for u man, ur so frustrated that ur unable to smell my fart.... dont get upset dude...u can quench this weird thirst of urs by putting ur nose up ur girl friend's ass for the time being
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:14 AM Permalink
LOL ... thank God your farts don't travel through the net. they only smell around you ... but thanks to your sinuses and failed hearing, you neither smell nor hear them.
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:35 AM Permalink
don't feel bad for me feel bad for yourself ... I made a joke of your sinuses and failed hearing and looks like that upset you further ... you are the one who is clearly frustrated and sore losing the argument.
anyway, I doubt that you are an IITian .... IITians are way smarter than you ... you are just a dumb weann be IITian.
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by Hate Who divides on Jul 06, 2008 01:22 AM Permalink
atleast if somebody on this blog read this article to open their eyes !!!!!!
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by Loan Shark on Jul 06, 2008 01:25 AM Permalink
rather open their rear end and let some greenhouse gases into the atmosphere ... LOL
