RE:Testing is Required
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 11:44 PM Permalink
What so legitimate about BJP's demand. They object to the deal on the specious argument that it does not permit us to test our nuclear weapons.
The operating word is in the event of nuclear testing. Even here the agreement provides an exception - the right to test if China or Pakistan tests.
No one in the nuclear community believes any more for the need to physically test. They now test through computer simulation using past test data.
This is the reason why Vajpayee government shrewdly went for a series of explosions (5 to be precise) - to generate such a data base.
Having done that Vajpayee gave an assurance to the world through his address to the General Assembly of the UN that India no longer needs to explode any nuclear devise.
So if we are take BJP's present position seriousily, was Vajpayee and BJP in 2000 lying to the world community? Put the other way, has the BJP and Advani changed their tune, just to seek votes
RE:RE:Testing is Required
by All Right on Jul 06, 2008 12:02 AM Permalink
Prabhat. You should know knickerwallahs well enough by now. Only when they run out of logical arguments (which is most of the time), they stoop to abuses. Mostly they are incapable of civilized debate. That's why Modi converted Gujarat into a Police state!
RE:Testing is Required
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 06, 2008 12:39 AM Permalink
- Did any of us question what went in the background of the failed summit at Agra between Bajpayee and Mussaraf during NDA's time?
NDA said the "no agreement". We said ok.
Because the PM and Govt. of the day saying.
No questions were asked.
Similarly, inspite of negative sentiment, nobody questioned Bajpayee's Lahore Bus Adventure even inspite of Kargil. Because it was between two Nations.
Congress and UPA could have demonstrated, thrown stones at the Lahore Bus and embarass the Govt.
But they did not. They went by the judgement of the Govt.
The nation always trusted its Prime Minister.
BJP has set a new precedence.
Now onwards, opposition will always try to embarass the Govt. of the day.
RE:Testing is Required
by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 01:08 AM Permalink
Choose you stand and your point! Are you concerned with the nuclear deal or you obsessed with the BJP.
The BJP is an isolated opposition party. It can make noise but cannot either make or mar the deal.
Six months back the Congress could have signed the deal - the deal does not need the approval of the Parliament. So why did they not do it. Are you suggesting that was because of the fact that the Congress party was waiting for the BJP to support.
Or are you suggesting that BJP could have supported the deal and that then the Congress would have gone ahead with it even if the Left walked out?
Would then a prabhat mohanty suggest that the BJP give outside support to the UPA so that it can survive .
I am not aware of any silence on the part of the Congress ( there was no UPA during the Agra Summit or the Lahore Bus ride of Vajpayee ) I remember that Kapil Sibyl blamed the whole failure on the NDA government " incompetence and bad planning " The Congress went on to say that President Musharaf was not to be blamed .
Check up archives on the net before making such statements.
But I would not blame the Congress party for that. As the principal opposition party that was their constitutional responsibility.
The N-deal is the Congress’s problem. It doesn’t need BJP’s support to go ahead with the deal. If the deal is having a problem it is because the UPA government was up to now worried about saving their government.
RE:RE:RE:Testing is Required
by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 01:20 AM Permalink
This was the brave question you asked "Did any of us question what went in the background of the failed summit at Agra between Bajpayee and Mussaraf during NDA's time?"
Here is my answer :
Scindia wondered whether 'there was pressure from other quarters, or was it (the talks) a ploy to distract attention from the results of the assembly polls."
"Sound diplomacy must be accompanied by sound media communication," Scindia asserted, referring to Pakistan's superior media-management in Agra.
Scindia blamed the heightened violence in J&K on the 'failure' in Agra and warned the prime minister 'not go to Pakistan without a structured agenda'.
"The Agra summit has pushed us back and not forward. The Kashmir killings are a direct result of the government's mishandling of the summit," he said referring to the killing of over 40 people in the week since the summit ended.
"The desire for dialogue with Pakistan must be pursued but your implementation was amateurish. No careful assessment was made of Pakistan's strategy," Scindia pointed out.
He also ridiculed the government's statement that no agenda was fixed for the summit because Pakistan preferred it to be kept open"
I dont think you claim that "They went by the judgement of the Govt" has any evidence to back that .
