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Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Yaseen on Jul 03, 2008 08:02 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

It is not the thing that muslims are against the deal, it is simply that US will dominate us, US will miss use us as it did with other of its allies, we are not US followers, we got better brains than , we have our own power and freedom.
US has always kept world in danger.


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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by arindam halder on Jul 03, 2008 08:27 PM   Permalink
with all due respect to all the people opposing this deal what are your views about mr kalam?
well i beleive mr kalam is a distinguished scientist who wont mean bad for our country when he's supporting the deal there is something definitely positive there
and as far as us being the dominant force just tell me in the last 60 years any 5 instances when india has actually opposed us policies?
no one can because we never did?
we didnt explore our own uranium resources we have build nuclear plants with no fuel to run them?
isnt that wastage of thousand of crores?
and i think usa has calrified that hyde act wont have any bearings on the nuclear deal we are signing and we can test nuclear devices
we are getting much more than imagined
just think about it why didnt russia which is our closest ally never thought of offering us a similar deal?
its not about usa or china or russia
its about india and its time we put aside silly objections like losing our independent foreign policy which we won't.We indians aren't spineless

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Albert on Jul 03, 2008 08:44 PM   Permalink
Yes I respects Dr.Kalams views.

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by harish babu on Jul 03, 2008 09:11 PM   Permalink
It is a pity that our PM has not bothered to an open discussion and keep the public informed of the details of the nuclear deal.This has led to many ignorant conclusions among all concerned and enabled the left to twist the arm of the PM.
The truth of the matter is that there is nothing that prevents us from carrying out nuclear tests if the situation warrants.But science has developed so mutch that none of the nuclear powers are conducting any tests since the same can be simulated with computing.
India can always walk out of the deal.US will not gain from India being taken over by China.On the contrary they want India to be a stronger and progressive country to match China.
It appears history will repeat itself.BJP is power hungry otherwise they should have supported the Gov on this issue long ago.
I am frightened history will repeat itself.We will be slaves again.People get what they deserve.

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Govardhan Brown on Jul 03, 2008 10:15 PM   Permalink
Yes, Harish Babu, science has developed so much
in the DEVELOPED countries. Don't for a moment
kid yourself that India has reached parity
with the US-CHINA-RUSSIA in nuclear weapons technology. We are decades behind them. And the only way you can be certain of your capability
is by testing, not simulation. That can come
after you have mastered the various stages that
the US (and other nuclear powers) have mastered.


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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by shakti mohapatra on Jul 03, 2008 09:33 PM   Permalink
Dr.Kalam is a politically ignorant & not a follower of the Gandhi family...that's why he was found unfit to be the president second time...now why does the govt wants to fire his gun from his shoulders?
I'm sure MM singh would drop the idea of nuclear deal like a hot potato if soniaji or rahulji decide to criticize it.

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Guest on Jul 03, 2008 10:07 PM   Permalink
TO live in this world we have take stand some where. NAM was the organisation of weaker, so they never managed to influence any decision at world level except doing press conference, CHINA is trying to do encirclement of india , he is giving aid to PAKISTAN' BURMA, GIVING WEAPONS TO SRILANKAN GOVT. THROUGH PAKISTAN, NOW GOT MARXIST IN NEPAL ,THEY WAS HELPING BENGLADESH, THEM FREAK SOMALIAN GOVT AND GIVING WEAPONS AND TRYING TO DEVELOP FRIENDLY RELATION WITH AFRICAN COUNTRIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OCEAN .so we should must stop this chinese activties around us. so thats why we also need USA. it is win win situation for both countries

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Bharat Kr on Jul 03, 2008 08:09 PM   Permalink
First, as a Bharatiya patriot, we shall not support the deak in its present form that debars our future nuclear weapon program. Second, it has nothing to do with muslims or anybody else. This is the deal initiated under NDA govt from position of strength. But Congress under US pressure, signed a deal with position of weakness, surrendering our national interests. China have such deals from US, but without constraints and conditions. And China is the number one proliferator, not North Korea or Pakistan.

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Guest on Jul 03, 2008 09:58 PM   Permalink
NDA offered to sign CTBT in exchange of this deal, where it was strong ' for reference you canread RICHARD ARMITAZE' autobiography where also mentioned that GEORGE FERNANDASE WAS STRIP SEARCHED WHILE HE WAS TRAVELLING THROUGH THE USA

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by prabhat mohanty on Jul 03, 2008 09:17 PM   Permalink
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The future of Nuclear Test may be in the lab itself, now that people are becoming environmental conscious.

This would actually create a greater divide amongst scientifically advanced countries and so advanced ones.

Think which side are you.

Are you a scientifically advanced country let's say a future rogue country like syria ( hypothetically speaking ) ?

Infact it might just in favour of India, if the World goes for strict ban Nuclear Tests.

India would stay in the exclusive club, for a long time to come.

Think strategically. Take your own country's strength and weakness into account.

Let's not parrot what a street politician says in a roadside corner meeting.

They would change their colour at the slightest pretext.

Take Amar Singh for example !

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Yaseen on Jul 03, 2008 08:15 PM   Permalink
Mr. Bharat, I agree with you, rightly said conditions of this deal and its format must be evaluated. politician should hand over this job to nuclear experts.

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  RE:Never be proUS , Always be Indian
by Sivadan on Jul 04, 2008 03:32 AM   Permalink
Read the interview with Mr. Bhadra Kumar
specials.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/03sld01
'It is immaterial what others think of us, if we decide that something is not good for us'

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