VHP and others should not try to emulate Islamic extremists. If they do, what is the difference between them and the islamic extremists. Besides, why punish other Indian muslims for what the Kashmiri paki proxy extremists did ?
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by Bharat Prashar on Jul 03, 2008 03:43 AM Permalink
And there I was always under the impression that Jammu and Kashmir was (is) an integral part of India and consequently the Muslims in Kashmir were INDIAN Muslims. Off course you seem to know better.
RE:Stop this idiocy..
by Virgo on Jul 03, 2008 04:57 AM Permalink
Read my post carefully. The extremism in Kashmir is by the paki ISI proxies. They force the Kashmiris to follow their edicts. Otherwise, they will be butchered. How can you blame the Kashmiris to outwardly support the protests enforced by the paki ISI agents? Has India protected them in the past couple of decades? What is surprising is that there are even Kashmiris who are openly pro-india. They are risking their lives. 40,000 Kashmiris have been butchered by the paki agents.
So, Kashmir, while an integral part of India, is a different case. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right.
RE:Stop this idiocy..
by Bharat Prashar on Jul 03, 2008 07:54 AM Permalink
Yes, I had indeed read your post carefully the first time. the purpose of my post was not to justify or otherwise the actions of VHP and Bajrang Dal. Rather it was to emphasise that if Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India and then the Muslims in Kashmir (paki proxy extremist or otherwise)are also INDIAN Muslims. Regarding you assertion that what happened in Kashmir (the land transfer fiasco) was due to terrorist activities of the paki ISI agents while it is indeed the case that a large portion of the Kashmiri population does indeed feel threatened by the pak inspired terrorists (you may or perhaps not be aware of the flight and plight of the hundereds of thousands of Hindu Pandits from Kashmir)it is very difficult to credit that same is the case with most if not all of the Kashmiri political establishment(National conference,PDP as well as Congress. The land transfer affair did not develope overnight. Rather it had been ongoing for a number of years and had gone through all the necessary legal and administrative approvals. However at the last minute PDP,whose own patron, when he was the state chief minister,had initiated the land transfer proposal suddenly developed cold feet and strated to instigate protests against the same and National Conference followed suit resulting in Congress throwing in the towel. Therefore any attempt to blame the opportunistic actions of the Kashmiri political establishment at least in this case on the terrorists/extremists/paki/ISI age
RE:Stop this idiocy..
by Virgo on Jul 03, 2008 09:03 AM Permalink
Sure, the Kashmir political parties are trying to get political mileage. The current instance of land issue was started by the Kashmiri leaders who are paki stooges. I am talking about Mirwaiz, Mufti, Gilani, Malik and other paki stooges. The good Kashmiris had no choice but to go with it in order to defuse the work of the paki stooges.
Our past cowardly leaders starting from Gandhi and Nehru were responsible for the current Ksshmir situation. We allowed a pitiful country, pakistan, to dictate terms to us for the past sixty years. Compare that with China which has stood up to the US on the issue of Taiwan.
While the chinese constantly needle us on Arunachal, have you ever heard any of our leaders tell the chinese that they are illegally occupying our land in Kashmir? Not even once! The chinese foreign minister had the gall to tell while in India that AP is china's land.
We could have regained the whole of Kashmir in 1965 or 1971 if we had prepared ourselves or and had the guts. That would have solved the Ksahmir issue once and for all. Remember we are not ever raising the fact that Gilgit/baltistan/northern area is Indian land. We have allowed the pakis to take this area totally out of public discussion. Why?
So, why blame the Kashmiris for the mess we have created ourselves?
RE:Stop this idiocy..
by Virgo on Jul 03, 2008 09:06 AM Permalink
Most importantly, coward Nehru did not have the guts in 1948 to drive all the pakis from Kashmir. If he had done so, Kashmir today will be a fully integrated state within our union. Instead he ran to the UN and created a mess for us.
We can keep saying the mantra that Kashmir is an integral part of India, but what is the use of empty talk when we don't have the guts to take all of it back and forever destroy the pakis?
RE:Stop this idiocy..
by birju on Jul 03, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
paki terrorists can do nothing without support of the international traitors in this country.....they have lived all their life on subsidies,free electricity at our cost......yet theirloyalties are to enemies of this nation............our poor are dying of hunger,commiting suicide..............whereas,kashmiri muslims continue to get rice and sugar at a rupee/kg...........free electricity.......and if the prices rise a few paise ,they will riot on the streets accompanied with their women in burqa.............NAMAKHARAAM.
