Please go through the Hyde Act related to US-India Nuclear agreement, specifically clauses 103 – b – 4 and 104-c-2-G.
Clause 103 deals with the US policy goals of the act.
Clause 103-b-4 states "Secure India’s full and active participation in United States efforts to dissuade, isolate, and, if necessary, Sanction and contain Iran for its efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, including a nuclear weapons capability and the capability to enrich uranium or reprocess nuclear fuel, and the means to deliver weapons of mass destruction."
The US Presidents will have to certify every 180 days to the US Congress among other things "A description and assessment of the specific measures that India has taken to fully and actively participate in United States and international efforts to dissuade, isolate, and, if necessary, sanction and contain Iran for its efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, including a nuclear weapons capability and the capability to enrich uranium or reprocess nuclear fuel and the means to deliver weapons of mass destruction"
As per the clause 106 the US president cannot give the required Waiver under clause 123 of US Atomic Energy Act (required for operating the 123 agreement) if the President determines that India has detonated a nuclear explosive device after the date of the enactment of this title (December 2006).
In short, this agreement would be nullified if we test in future. So all the nuclear power plants
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by deepak singh on Jul 01, 2008 06:04 PM Permalink
Sir
As on today 1st July 2008, we Indian are not sure whether this agreement is beneficial to our motherland or harmfull. We are still divided among us on this issue. Why? Because no one know, exactly what is the agreement. When naxalite say this is..... we agreed. When BJP say....we agreed. When congress say.... we agreed. And also disagreed later on, when we hear counter point.
It is all because of government secretive nature, why government's not disclosing all to its ally atleast.
This agreement is same like agreement between Jina- Nehru- British government to divide the country. It was not known untill it was implemented.
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by Aviram Vijh on Jul 01, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
The govt is elected by the people...who have vested their faith in them to take decisions on their behalf...it doesn't need to show u or me anything sir... this shows that we don't even trust our own govt or PM..
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by All Right on Jul 01, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
The likes of Deepak would sing a different tune if it was the BJP
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by ByTheWay on Jul 01, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
Buddy, the frustration you are seeing here and all over the country is not just about this deal - understand that. I know you save anti BJP feelings and a cong sympathizer, but even you cannt ignore the fact that this govt is non-functioning one atleast for the last one year. Everyday people get up and see the news paper to see a one day cong will go ahead with deal, left issues warning, PM says we are commited, sonia says consensus would be made, left says no way..... how long this is going on. I do support BJP, but I'm not saying this deal is of no use just becos UPA is signing this. But this is just an eye wash, as I had stated earlier in this forumn.Both congress and left knew from 2004 that they cannot go into 2009 general elections as allies. So they kept this deal as a way to fight and part ways, smart..isnt it ?
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by Arup Chakraborty on Jul 01, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
Thanks Milland for atleast come up with real facts. Many in this blog actually dont know or not aware about the seriousness of this issue. They are just happy with making jokes or write junks. But the fact never goes wrong. It is BJP who start talking with USA for this agreement and when MMS initiate the talk again he though he will get support from BJP since everybody in india knows left will oppose it but the never trust lot BJP play the politics and now we are in this situation. It shows how immature MMS is politically? And what is BJP's character?
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by Aviram Vijh on Jul 01, 2008 06:04 PM Permalink
The BJP will not support the deal bcoz they cud not salvage a deal that was even half good as this one.
The US will impose terms that it likes...if it says i'll give u uranium but with certain restrictions regarding nuclear weapons...whats wrong with it?
Its our choice...take it or leave it...we can keep making bombs..and when the time for war comes we wont even have the uranium required! stupid asses are stuck up with bomb even when half this nation lives in darkness
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by sylesh gopan on Jul 01, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
At the end of the day BJP is also a political outfit not a non-profit NGO. Political existence in a highly polarized country like India will be marked by the smart positions a party takes. Here its true that BJP started the talk, but UPA govt didnt give them the respect the prime opposition deserved. Your statement is not true that everyone knew Left will not support, but the fact is UPA thought for the sake of keeping BJP out of power, left may come around and give mute support to this. But only when the real they realized that left will never support this, they went to BJP - that too indirectly. The attitude shown by both PM and UPA towards BJP was nothing but arrogance personified.
But this all could be an eye wash. Both congress and left knew from 2004 that they cannot go into 2009 general elections as allies. So they kept this deal as a way to fight and part ways, smart..isnt it ?
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by All Right on Jul 01, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
The clause is pro-India. We cannot have another nuclear neighbor. China & Pakistan is bad enough.
This clause is the reason why the Left and BSP term the agreement as anti-Muslim. The question is why the BJP joins them in opposing the deal - for a few Muslim votes?
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by All Right on Jul 01, 2008 05:42 PM Permalink
Why should we test our nuclear bombs? All nuclear countries here on believe that there is no need when this can be computer simulated using past data.
It is exactly to generate such data, the Vajpayee government continued testing over several days. This is hypocrisy by the BJP
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by anil b on Jul 01, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
it is because the BJP guys are old and senile and they have lost their senses especially Advani .
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by Milind Kulkarni on Jul 01, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
Isolating and containing Iran's nuke program would be in India's interest.
BUT we must not do so because of the requirement of an agreement signed with United States or Any other country.
Whatever foreign policy must be solely that of the Indian Government without any explicit assurances to other countries.
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by Ram Sharma on Jul 01, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
The clause is not in India's interest. Why r u bringing Muslims in it? China is not a Muslim country. How Hyde act will deter other countries not to go nuclear? Talk sensibly.
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by Ram Sharma on Jul 01, 2008 06:11 PM Permalink
How the deal between India and USA will prevent this? Why it will not prevent if Hyde act is not applicable.
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by Gopal on Jul 01, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
The Hyde act had only three pages in the beginning. Later several explanatory notes were added to it making it a 41 (Forty one) page document. It can be a good subject for researchers to analyse the implications in all its widest spectrum. Thanks Milind
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by j j on Jul 01, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Congress regrets and communist deny we have nuclear bomb.
SO forget about any more nuclear bomb under any congress govt.
