Muslims should realize the value of true education rather than what the BOOK says...time has changed..we are not in 6th centuary...With time things change...That BOOK doesnt hold good now...Non of the religious books are suitable for today's environment...Though others are liberal today only islamic people are still living in stone age culture...they have to change if they dont want themselves to be isolated in this world...now a days in every airport people dont check us because we are indians..they check us because they feel that we are muslims...in developed countries nobody wants a muslim to be their neighbour..time for change has come..I am not talking about the CHANGE mentioned by OBAMA though.
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by shariq on Jan 30, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
ya u r right muslims are still living in stone age there girls are still in purdah on the contrary the people like u are living in 21st century forgetting their religious books and started reading PLAYBOY and DEBONAIr type books these are ur religious books now and SEX is ur GOD
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by JGN on Jan 30, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
Mr.shariq, have you heard of Mukhtar Mai? This month's Reader's Digest has an article on her. Pl read that and tell us about the superiority of your religion. Also we can punish a ra-pe victim with 200 lashes like in another Islamic Country recently!!!!
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by Ibnameer on Jan 30, 2008 06:46 PM Permalink
Without hiding ur identity....can anybody come for an open debate??Have you ever read Qur'aan??It talks about modern science which is discovered only in 20th/21st century. It is fit for the past/present and future. JGN is talking about 200 lashes to a rape victim......you are talking about the news which you got through International media......That particular country u speak is known for "less crimes" and "No curruption"(No corruptin in Police dept, judiciary, Govt...all)...according to their country's law that gal is not supposed to stay or roam-around with other Gent otherthan her brother or Father...she found to be guilty, so the punishment. The rapists were also punished.That country is the safest country for women, ask any of ur friend working there.
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by Girish on Jan 31, 2008 02:36 AM Permalink
Oh yeah u want a debate, why dont you explain these 1. How come it says in Quran "If a person does not believe in Islam he or she should be made to believe in it no matter what the means is"
2. How come in any of the Muslim majority countries people of other faith are SECOND RATE CITIZENS BY LAW
3. How Come in Kashmir which is the only Muslim majority state in India, 350 thousand Hindus were driven out in the largest ethnical cleansing of history and the people(muslims) had no problem with that(Ofcourse even our spineless Government was quiet)
5. How come your religion is soo intolerent that you guys refuse to accept a common civil code in a democratic country
There are a lot more.... for starters answer these.
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by Girish on Jan 31, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
Oh yeah u want a debate, why dont you explain these 1. How come it says in Quran "If a person does not believe in Islam he or she should be made to believe in it no matter what the means is"
2. How come in any of the Muslim majority countries people of other faith are SECOND RATE CITIZENS BY LAW
3. How Come in Kashmir which is the only Muslim majority state in India, 350 thousand Hindus were driven out in the largest ethnical cleansing of history and the people(muslims) had no problem with that(Ofcourse even our spineless Government was quiet)
5. How come your religion is soo intolerent that you guys refuse to accept a common civil code in a democratic country
There are a lot more.... for starters answer these.
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by Girish on Jan 31, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
Oh yeah u want a debate, why dont you explain these 1. How come it says in Quran "If a person does not believe in Islam he or she should be made to believe in it no matter what the means is"
2. How come in any of the Muslim majority countries people of other faith are SECOND RATE CITIZENS BY LAW
3. How Come in Kashmir which is the only Muslim majority state in India, 350 thousand Hindus were driven out in the largest ethnical cleansing of history and the people(muslims) had no problem with that(Ofcourse even our spineless Government was quiet)
5. How come your religion is soo intolerent that you guys refuse to accept a common civil code in a democratic country
There are a lot more.... for starters answer these.
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by Girish on Jan 31, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
Oh yeah u want a debate, why dont you explain these 1. How come it says in Quran "If a person does not believe in Islam he or she should be made to believe in it no matter what the means is"
2. How come in any of the Muslim majority countries people of other faith are SECOND RATE CITIZENS BY LAW
3. How Come in Kashmir which is the only Muslim majority state in India, 350 thousand Hindus were driven out in the largest ethnical cleansing of history and the people(muslims) had no problem with that(Ofcourse even our spineless Government was quiet)
5. How come your religion is soo intolerent that you guys refuse to accept a common civil code in a democratic country
There are a lot more.... for starters answer these.
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by WhitePageForu on Jan 30, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
Dear Shariq in my job, I usually travel around the world and found that most of the people ask me whether I am muslim? I observed that they feel insecure with the thought that I might be a muslim. Why dont they ask me whether I am a Jew or Buddhist,,,why only Muslim? They are not intrested in what I am rather they want to keep themselves away from muslims...For me PLAYBOY and DEBONAIR as as useful as other books...I am not religious guy...but this remains a reality that PLAYBOY and DEBONAIR doesnt teach hatred and doesnt tell you to kill others...Only one book teaches that...In 21st centuary it is true that you guys are still in 6th centuary...Einstein predcited that people will travel in future..but only Koran can take you to PAST...
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by Vijay Shankar on Jan 30, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
We have developed that we have started cloning and artificail intellegence.. it is high time people of this community wake up come out of the dark ages. Realise that the things have moved on and try to make some useful contribution to the world
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by Indian on Jan 30, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
because media has created a hype against muslim, this what you call a propaganda war. today's media is very powerful they can show black into white and white into black. This propaganda war is startyed by Americans after fall of USSR. There is a deep rooted conspiracy, suddenly a religion which is flourishing in for the last 1300 years, became religion of terror because our minds are blocked and we believe what is shown by the media and we dont try to find the truth bhind.
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by Rationalist on Jan 30, 2008 06:06 PM Permalink
It is called act of Islamization/terrorism.Anybody who takes up cause of anti islamzation or hinduism will be treated such a way that nobody dares to take up again in future so that they can continue with Islamization. This is age old metthod practiced by Islamists when they entered mainland India to convert people into their faith. They are said to instill terror by chopping of heads,robbing of manhood of the citizens they conquered,raping their women so that the rest are in terror & submit to Islam.This mettod worked in the eras where there was no good communication and hence mobilization of resitance was impossible and they took full advantage of it.But today they do'nt have that advantage and that is frustrating them. And they ca'nt adopt to this era.
