i read the article by diplomat. I am amazed at some of the statements. He saya Indians have been honest businessmen and created wealth by sweat. Oh yeah! Why these very Indians then don't do that at their cities like Jaipur, Jodhpur, Bikaner, Uttaranchal and Mehsana? It means somewhere they find Kenya offers more tranquil place, more resources, better systems or better quality of life. Indian Businessmen have gone their have no divine right and went their without any invitation by Africans. I am privy to incidences of subjugation of local people. Punjabis have called local people to serve them at parties which ran till 3 am in night and treated Africans as if they were slaves. unlike Britishers who ruled India, Indians have made no contribution towards infrastructure, law and order or science and technology. They have gone only for trade. Besides, material wealth may not be objective of so many Africans! So forget this crap about Rich Indians in there etc. Britishers have made India progressive after they have made their homeland developed. Indians can't improve their BIMARU states and looting Kenya
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by V H on Jan 12, 2008 07:47 AM Permalink
Milind - looks like the convent you went to school did not do the right thing. Britishers killed Indians and wiped out local cultures and agriculture. They introduced nepotism, master/slave racism and babu culture that is destroying the country today. They did infrastructure not out of some benevolence. Rails where built to carry the loots from a big country like india. Indians in Kenya are not rulers... they are just business men... rest of your argument is plain joke.
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by SreenivasaRao K. on Jan 11, 2008 10:13 AM Permalink
Not withstanding what's said about ill-treatment of the locals by the wealthy rich Indians, it's important to note that Indians are only traders still and do not run governments a la the British in India and hence cannot build infrastructure or any of those things mentioned in Milind's comments. Of course, there is no doubt they can contribute to the country's welfare through individual philathrophic actions and it's important to make such contributions in their own interest and in the interest of their community.
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by patrick on Jan 30, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
well personally i have nothing against indians.you cant just generalize.you may have had one bad experience but surely its not right to say all of them are that way.likewise why dont you generalize about africans ive ghad plenty of bad experiences with my own africans.starting from our own african racism from waiters wher they serve the whites first. and its like your part of the furniture.dont get me started. my father worked for the government for many years and then retired.when he did non of his african or fellow kenyan friends came to see him not even once yet when he was in power they all knew him.the only people who gave him work were his indian freinds.up to date.thats wht we as a family are surviving from i owe them for that.if i wer to ever see an indian in trouble i would help them in a heart beat.i respect them.as people.try running a small business like a kiosk before you judge them or talk and you would be a fool to do so.lets face it they work very hard and support each other and it pays theres no magic formulae us africans should do the same instead of critisizing and complaining.we cant point fingures when we ourselves are hacking each other and hate each other based on tribe.why anyone watchin that would think we are barbaric and would look down on us.since when is success a bad thing.
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by Manjula A on Jan 11, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
Indians may have committed frauds and made dishonest money but please don't compare them with the imperialist. Indians do not practice torture and Genocide like most of the colonisers.
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by sewa mumbai on Jan 11, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
Milind I think you need to consult a Psychiatrist immediately. In case you are not aware you can write to me.
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by Milind on Jan 14, 2008 10:31 AM Permalink
Dear Sevas and Provu rais, Please read other comments which have been posted after me. Indians do not marry locals and treat them as inferiors. It means they do not want to mingle with the society, that has offered them chance to thrive in country! Indians only exploit Africa. They don't want to mix with culture, who allowed them to come and take advantage of resources. It is the same mentality that people from North of Vindhyas employ when they cannot develop own infrastructure, but can thrive on that developed by someone else, and then spit in the same plate they eat in.
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by Hind on Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
Brithishers looted India and left only after the pressures of 2nd world war and and only when cost benift state of remaining in India went negative. Just check History how many severe famines india suffered during british rule. And british provided infrastructure is a myth, they were rulers they had to do something . They only provided only that much , through which they can loot resources to UK and easy tranportation and some some india personnel in police and administration at lower levels to control vast country. See they did not leave Hongkong 1990, because it was cost benificial. Its all different other story even after indipendence we lagged because the Indian Political class also followed the same divide and rule to worser level, mandal,kamadals, st ,sc,bc, minority ... and the time of sardar patel ,lal Bhadur and PVN where country saw unification,revolution in agriculture and Open market were were short lived and wiped from the public memory by the great Dynasty. to Some extent Jawaharlal can be exempted for laying foundations to great instituions but big political and foriegn policy blunders commited by him drawf everything.
