For asking me to get a lesson on comprehension!!! would you call Keith devlin a Idiot for saying As Scientists we are children of Islam".. The fact that our Indian great minds contributed to mathematics doesnt discount the fact that Muslims laid much of the foundations of modern science
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by sameer bhagwat on Jan 11, 2008 09:09 AM Permalink
What you mention is Devlin's opinion.What I quoted were facts that he mentions.In understanding a piece you need to look at the sum of the parts,with contexts of the parts contributing to your understanding.I repeat,a lesson in comprehension would do you no harm!
RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:01 AM Permalink
Did you check the Times magazine link which I gave that calls "Al-Jazari the father of modern engineering"? It is immaterial that wheher some one thought about something 5000 years ago..did it have a pracical impact on the world's civilization and humanity??That is the question It is in support of these things i refered HP website and MAA website You simply keep ignoring and asking me the same questions..
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:28 AM Permalink
Sushruta was a great surgeon.I accept that But dont make outlandish arguments without presenting evidence.I you think I sound outlandish,please note,i always back it with the most appropriate academy of the subject by a credible source and World well respected The University of Kansas Medical Center's Museum of the rare books and manuscripts library The real father of modern surgery is Al-bucasis
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by acommentor on Jan 11, 2008 09:23 AM Permalink
Mr. Gyan Vedi, Is it true that general relativistic concept was mentioned in Vedas? I am a born Hindu, I am not against the religion and don't mistake me.
RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:41 AM Permalink
Gyan vedi- you started about surgey and medicine I refered you to the most prestigious institutions on earth.. Had a look on National libraray of Medicine and University of Kansas Medical center.??
RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:03 AM Permalink
You asked three.Here is a plenty Paul Vallely - The Associate editor of UK's national nespaper-The independent says Muslim inventors changed the world independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article350594.ece
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by sameer bhagwat on Jan 11, 2008 09:16 AM Permalink
Vedi ji you must let go of this argument.Islam has accepted that knowledge must be acquired and used.Which is a good mindset to have.The only problem with Islam right now is dogmatism and extremism.And since we have ample evidence that in their quest for knowledge they had to tap into the resources of our civilization,we should not keep repeating it for fear of sounding like blowing our own trumpet.I am sure Balaord agrees.
RE:RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:32 AM Permalink
If you have little bit of History of medicine , then you would never require a introduction to this - United States National Library of Museum nlm.nih.gov/ Type "Islamic" in the search text box and go to any link, it has thousands of pages with Specific sections for different disciplines and the contribution of Islam to that. The readers would be surprised to find that all major disciplines of Medicine are found and cherished Muslims during the Golden Age of Islam.
RE:RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:36 AM Permalink
Just check the world's largest Medical manuscriot repository nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/islamic_medical/islamic_12.html
RE:RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:30 AM Permalink
check what i said about surgery. For each of what i said, I backed it up gave evidinces from the most credible and neutral sources.On the other hand you are resorting to ad hominem attacks
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 08:58 AM Permalink
Guys- I am doubly proud because we Indians have invented the ZERO,ofcourse the Muslims recorded and made many fundamental mathematical discoveries using that.This simply proves that we can always unite and work for the global good. Only a stupid will deny that Muslims travellers learnt many great things from india-for exmaple Al-biruni.As a Muslim and Indian , it makes me doubly doubly proud I am simply stating and citing many academic links in support of islam to dispell certian myths and prejudice they have about Muslims and Islam
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by Comment on Jan 11, 2008 09:36 AM Permalink
Dear Balord
Can u asnser a simple question.
1) YOu are so much in no. but still underdevelped econonicallly and militariry. 2) So much afraid of US and Israel whenever they want they bomb and destroys u and you hide ur self. 3) you are not brave to fight infront rather you stab at back by producing terroristes. 4) you fight yourself and destroys. 5) Nonoe of your cournty is prospering, example pakistan,iraq,afganistan. 6) Evne Naster Damus has predicted that this millenium your religino will be vanished.
Please think a lot and do some introspection . you will find answer yourself.
RE:RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by balaord on Jan 11, 2008 09:38 AM Permalink
It is true Muslims are in many way no match for the rest of world.This however doesnt discount that it is Islam which laid the foundations of modern science.You have to understand that Muslims countries are still reeling from the effects of British colonizations.
RE:@Sameer Bagwat
by sudhir kumar on Jan 11, 2008 10:03 AM Permalink
Only contribution of Islam to this world is jehad and terrorism.Islam and Koran has made its followers satan and fantics.It is affecting other religions also.To defend themselves from islam other religions have also appected the theory of jehad or crusade and are now becoming fanatics
