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  RE:It is not Indians or Pakistanis...
by Sumeer Sharma on Jan 03, 2008 09:52 AM   Permalink
Mr.Ahmad Nawaz, if what you say is correct, then I wonder why none of the Muslims clergy in India,Malaysia,Indonesia,Pakistan etc. has ever had the courage to call a spade a spade. I have never heard of condemnation of a terrorist strikes - be it 9/11,Bali, Mumbai, Delhi, Pakistan or elsewhere - from any of these so called Ullemas. What ails them? Is it because their moyuths are stuffed with funds from these very Saudis? What is preventing them from getting togethjer and issuing a Fatwa against Jehad i.e. the distorted form that is a pseudonym for terror and mindlerss killings.

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  RE:It is not Indians or Pakistanis...
by Ahmad Nawaz on Jan 03, 2008 10:59 AM   Permalink
Sumeer,
That is it, the Saudi influence and funds!!! Ask anyone in Pakistan or any credible real Muslim in India. The infamous Aurengzeb who killed a lot of non-Wahabi Muslims under his rule was one of the believers. Ironically he was also the only Mughal who believed in killing Kafirs (non-believers).

The problem is those moderate Muslims hold back from their anger when they witness the widespread anti-Muslim attitude in india which is pretty obvious on rediff here. Why would any Muslim say anything about terrosrists when they see extremly henuous commenst and acts like what happened in Gujurat for instance. Indina Muslims are called Pakistanis as soem form of insult. But they dont take afront to that rather they feel hey hate us so why should we hate the fanatics who are troubling them. Screw them they say. Any normal human being would. The problem with India is ignorance. Mainly cultural and social ignorance. The problem is not a lack of formal education or poverty believe me. And it is very difficult to get this point across to aperson who has been broght to believe that Hindus have been persecuted by Mughals or something so it is our turn now. BY the same logic and in keeping with this theme People on the other side believe theat Muslism are being persecuted by Hindus so why feel remorse. The problems in India are the exploitation of the psychosocial deficinces and gaps by the self-serving organiations like BJP or VHP.

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  RE:It is not Indians or Pakistanis...
by Pradeep on Jan 03, 2008 11:19 AM   Permalink
i don't know how to prove it, but a majority of hindus don't hate muslims, and we beleive they are a part of India.
yes there are disagreements, but i think they can be fixed.

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  RE:It is not Indians or Pakistanis...
by Pradeep on Jan 03, 2008 08:51 AM   Permalink
true or not but they are doing it in the Name of Islam and moderate muslims keep quiet.
and the rest of the world believes this silence means acceptance with the radical opinion.
one of the solutions is everytime you see someone going to do harm to others in the name of Islam hand him over to the authorities.

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