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Be Rational & Think!!
by Contractor on Jan 03, 2008 10:16 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

For a Hindu, a concept of Hindu Rashtra is a goal worth striving for.
A nation-state (such as India), which is defined geo-politically, need not entertain the claims of the Such concept.
I dont think India does entertain such claims. I dont think India entertains the concept of Islamic state in India.
BTW, Does that competitor concept include Hindu Rashtra?
However, what about those who by their own admission disown the concept of a geo-political nation?
What do we do of them? What someone avows that he does not believe in Democracy? Should we discriminate against him? (Like communists who jailed those who did not believe in communism) Should we make policies that are based in one's belief systems?
Should India discriminate against those who express their belief in Hindu Rashtra?
I dont think that it is a problem at all. If someone believes they would rather have a Tamil country, its up to them to believe it. I dont think there should be any law or policy to discriminate against them.
I am not sure if you want to convert our state into moral police that starts examining peoples thoughts and belief systems.
India does not recognize a religion as basis for forming the nation. If people do, thats their problem.
India does not recognize an ideology, such as communism, as basis for forming the nation. However, communist government do come into power in various states and they are NOT discriminated against based on their ideology.
Thank you.


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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jan 03, 2008 10:18 AM   Permalink

ISLAM IS HEIGHT OF IRRATIONALITY.

ITS HILARRIOUS TO SEE A MUSLIM TALKING ABOUT RATIONALISM AS WELL AS ASKING TO BECOME MUSLIM:)-

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  RE:Be Rational & Think!!
by Contractor on Jan 03, 2008 10:20 AM   Permalink
Any Hindu with a secular view is a Muslim, what a skewed argument.

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jan 03, 2008 10:23 AM   Permalink

BS. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM COUNTRY WHICH IS SECULAR!

DON'T FART 2 MUCH. SECULARISM AND MUSLIMS ARE MISMATCH. ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jan 03, 2008 10:19 AM   Permalink

>>India does not recognize a religion as basis for forming the nation. If people do, thats their problem.

IDIOT, ITS PEOPLE WHO MADE THAT CONSTITUTION.

GOD FORBID, IF KASHMIR IS GOES OUT OF INDIA'S CONTROL, INDIA WILL BE OFFICIALLY BECOME A "HINDU NATION".

AND NO POWER CAN STOP THAT.

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by Sahadevan KK on Jan 03, 2008 10:41 AM   Permalink
India is also falling into the hands of religious terrorism. Everything is for rule our country. Dalits/Christians/Muslims/social activists/artists etc. are being attacked very cruelly. In a few years, these viruses will become mature terrorists.

A Dalit President could not save Dalits in our country. A Sardar could not save Sardars. A Muslim President could not save Muslims. A Modi will not save Hindus also. 1 lakh farmers suicided in Vajpayee's regime. A secular solution must come at centre.

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by Contractor on Jan 03, 2008 10:23 AM   Permalink
There is a tendency in India (as elsewhere) to assume that the way the majority behaves is the right way and that others should just conform to it. For Hindus, may be, religion is secondary compared to nationality. For Muslims, religion is their biggest identity- which is supposedly constant, unchanging and permanent for many millennia. For them, nations, states, kingdoms and other allegiances change with time while religion remains the same. They attach more importance to religion and its interpretation compared to a nation and its interpretation. The failure to understand this aspect of Islam will result in confusion. Being tolerant is the ability to understand why certain cultures, religions and people behave the way they behave and accept it. Just because Muslims consider religion to be supreme it does NOT mean they are NOT patriotic. Allegiance to religion and then to a nation/state is quite practical and NOT mutually exclusive. For many Hindus this may sound alien, but Muslims have been practicing this for ages. In the same way, for many monotheistic religious people it may seem alien to see Hindus praying to so many gods, demi-gods and human-gods. There is a need to understand that expressions, practices and rituals are different for different kinds of people. Imposing ones idea of what is right onto others will cause friction. There is NO necessity to conform to majoritys expression and practice to show ones patriotism or loyalty. What if someone refuses to sing Vande

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jan 03, 2008 10:25 AM   Permalink

IF U REFUSE TO SING VANDE-MATARM, NATIONAL SONG, THEN MOVE TO PAKISTAN.

Simple.


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by SUBHRAJIT GUPTA on Jan 03, 2008 10:35 AM   Permalink
with all due respect.. if someone refuses to sing vande mataram then that is not patriotic..so i have to wear dhoti to show im Indian? what logic? Ask all actors to wear dhoti...dum hai to karke dikha...

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by Sahadevan KK on Jan 03, 2008 10:38 AM   Permalink
India is also falling into the hands of religious terrorism. Everything is for rule our country. Dalits/Christians/Muslims/social activists/artists etc. are being attacked very cruelly. In a few years, these viruses will become mature terrorists.

A Dalit President could not save Dalits in our country. A Sardar could not save Sardars. A Muslim President could not save Muslims. A Modi will not save Hindus also. 1 lakh farmers suicided in Vajpayee's regime. A secular solution must come at centre.

indian2007a.googlepages.com

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