i donno wht had happened to Indians??the country of peace is turning into a grave..these terrorists have nothing to do with religion?? weather its hindu/muslim..who ever is responsible for killing of innocent had nothing todo with his religion??its just a political-force and extremists those doing all this evil things. What surprises me more is the comments people post here.i havent seen a single comment where people have encouraged others to stop violence or killings. instead pouring more venom in their communities.what a pity? This is what Americans or anti-indians wants..fight and kill each other. was it Kashmir or Gujrat..concept is same..play with the sentiments of people in the wake of religion and then Rule their WILL to fullfill their evil desires..No one talk about the common people..their daily needs.. the souring expenses..the medical facilities,transport- system,roads,bussiness,electricity,black marketing of food stuff,rise in wages of poor labours,all those people who are starving in india..do u know where it will lead you..you so called extremists(hindu-muslim)..change your way of thinking, be a constructive force instead of a destructive society..the way you are leading yourself will throw you in the garbage of frutration where the western countries and neighbouring countries will laugh upon you..they will say "India is on the verge of self-destruction by its own people,no need to go for a war with them"..wake up you sleeping idiots ands short-sighted guys.
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by John Koli on Jan 01, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
As you can all see why the vast number of India's muslims are considered generally intolerant. I wrote something that did not agree with the above views expressed and my muslim friend just got it removed. He just vindicated my point. :)
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by koblenz koblenz on Jan 01, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
Muslim countries treat their religious minorities like dirt and they leave no stone unturned in demanding more and more rights in the non muslim countries they live in. What a HYPOCRISY! With what face can they demand equality when they do not give it to others. Muslims talk of secularism only where they are in minority and in Muslim countries they make their religion as state religion, and make sharia infallible. Again HYPOCRISY! This fellow says "This is what Americans or anti-indians wants" So, in one line our learned friend equates Anti Indian = American, just and just out of his own political convenience rather than a genuine conviction out of love of India. Truth may be 180 degree opposite. Don't we understand your mentality Sir? Well Sir, don't fire your shots from the shoulders of America. Your loyalty lies where, we well know. You said "India is on the verge of self-destruction by its own people,no need to go for a war with them". No one will ever say that and there is no need for you to create a smoke screen here by your disinformed propaganda out of your own interests. If people from your continue to be appeased, provided reservations, given subsidies to Haj, then India is good country. DON'T PUSH YOUR POLITICAL AGENDA UNDER THE GUISE OF LIBERALISM AND SECULARISM.
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by shahab khan on Jan 01, 2008 07:04 PM Permalink
dear koblenz i respect ur views.. as u said about muslim countries i offer u a visit to Dubai, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, Lebnon. In dubai there r few temples..one very famous is near creek u will see a big temple and if u go n visit u will feel as if u r in Varanasi.. if u see Bahrain u will find lots of churches and temples there, in Iraq 25% are christians, in Iran 5% are jews and 10% christians.. in Lebnon its 65% christians, in Egypt 23% christians & 12% jews.. Except in Saudi Arabia u will find only 2% of non-muslims..why?? coz in saudi non-muslim had tried to blow up some ancient monuments few centuries ago..so since then some part of saudi is restricted for non muslims . Now Mr.koblenz tell me about USA.. do u remember the days of Russians in Afghanistan.. today if terrorism is here just coz of them.T hey had invested huge amount of money throgh pakistan making trouble in punjab n kashmir and now far east with the help of bangladesh..why?? to safe gaurd the Pakistani interest..and its interest lies only in trouble some-india.. why until now we dont have a seat in security council though we'r atomic power, why USA dont ask pakistan to stop supporting militants in kashmir?my dear freind keep ur eyes open n u will notice CIA members working and living near by you.if not then how our elite soldier are get trapped in selling military secrets to foreign agents.. any one can answere to me what had happened to these culprits who had sold these military secrets?? open ur
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by koblenz koblenz on Jan 01, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
shahab miyan zada chalak banne ki zaroorat nahi hai, don't think that by wearing a cloak of liberalism you can hide your true interests. You interest is primarily driven out of your motivation to get maximum concession for Muslim people with little interest in the well being of India. You said, In Iraq 25% Christian, WRONG! less than 1% You said in Iran 5% Jews, WRONG!, only 25,000 living around Tehran. Its 99% Muslim with 97.5 % Shia. You said Lebanon 65% Christians, Again WRONG!. Last census done in Lebanon was in 1932 and a that time it was 55% Christans and remaining Shias, but now Shis population has crossed 60%. You said in Egypt, 23% Christians, and 12% Jews, WRONG! Only christians there are maronite christians and they are in few thousands.... These figures you have presented well show your state of knowledge oor chala hai bhashan dene morality ka. "Now Mr.koblenz tell me about USA.. do u remember the days of Russians in Afghanistan.. today if terrorism is here just coz of them." So? By the same logic shouldn't muslims have left terrorism when Americans left in 1989? No, they did not leave it because they enjoy being intolerant. Every country in this world spies against other country and does not want to see it progress, so if US does it in India it does not make them out worst enemy. Don't try to be appear good artificially, you understand! Regarding India not being member of UN, well this is all togehter other issue, do ot try to create smokes screen by mixing two
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by arunabhasengupta on Jan 01, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
My friend, you are absolutely right. But inspite of the political adherance to the incidence may I point out that a particular community is in the middle of creating all the troubles in the name of Jehad. What for Jehad is. In India at least that particular community holds the key amongst the political parties and that particular community seems to turn against all developed nation though they derive the benefits out of them. It is not the question of Hindus or the Muslims but the fact of terror remains and that is caused by the people of a particular community in the name of Jehad - I don't know but is killing of innocent people called Jehad? I put the question to my learned friend. By Jehad people of all communities be it the Hindus or the Muslim are sufferring.
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by vanday on Jan 01, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
It is not a community it is a group of people from a particular state are involved in this act and we should not blame the whole community for this.
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by shahab khan on Jan 01, 2008 06:41 PM Permalink
If a doctor want to cure any disease then what he will do?? First of all he will do some test and then he will prescribe few medicines for some time and after that he will wait and watch the action or reaction of that medicine..if it works he will continue??? Now the same is applied to reform the societies?? 1st..through study of the root cause??? jehad was never heard b4 9/11..its a media hype of western countries..wrongly qouted jehad as mudering of people..jehad stands for purifying ourselves from evil things.. even abstracting from sin is also a jehad.. stopping smoking, drinking wine is also jehad..its not at all mingled with killings only. 2nd. what measured should be taken to stop discriminition.. 3. how to uplift poor and to bring them in main stream of development. Dears if u supress one community coz of religion then u cannt develop ur country just because u hv to carry the burden of feeding 20% of ur population.. if this community goes from the situation poor to worst then they will have nothing to lose..so think about the consequenses "They hv nothing to lose and on other hand rich guys hv so many things which they r afraid to get lost".. who will suffer if the situation went to close to a civil-war.yes,all those people who want extradiction cleansing of one community. Better be in one stream of development..dont think of bitterness and hate..i pray to Allah to put some brain in Indians..so that they can immerge as super power in the world..Insha Allah
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by koblenz koblenz on Jan 01, 2008 07:08 PM Permalink
You said " jehad was never heard b4 9/11" Really? Really? This well reflects your IQ and understanding. I come from Jammu and Kashmir and I had been hearing this word since the day I was born and Indian National newspapers were using this word right from 1989 quite regularly. Jihad's true meaning may be what ever, but what this word CONNOTES is a war on non-muslims. People like you have a habit of blaming west for all your own pit falls. Set your own house in order before you blame others. Well when was Muslim Population 20% as you seem to suggest? Well, its good to increase numbers to get motivation. Carry on! You said "i pray to Allah to put some brain in Indians" well what you mean is that "I will pray to allah so that give some brains to Indian(read Hindus keep appeasing us Muslims)" By the way what happens to the brain of Muslims in Islamic countries? Pray for them, you have been given too much in India
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by John Koli on Jan 01, 2008 05:53 PM Permalink
BTW, the muslims in India want the Indian government to take anti-ameracan and anti-israeli stances. This shows where their allegiance is. Being anti-america and anti-israeli is actually being against India's development. This was the mistake that the congress party and its socialist and communist friends had imposed on India for almost 40 years.
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by Palani on Jan 01, 2008 06:57 PM Permalink
yes you are correct American and Israel are Indian friendly. India must have all the cooperation with them.
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by koblenz koblenz on Jan 01, 2008 06:51 PM Permalink
One question to all Muslim brothers->
Why Jammat e Islami in Pakistan espouses Islam when Jammat e Islami e Hind in India espouses Secularism and Jammat e Islami in kashmir again espouses Islam, given all the three organizations are basically ofshoots of Jammat e Islami e Hind before 1947? WHY?
ANSWER: Because Kashmir and Pakistan are Muslim majority so they talk of Islam and since Muslims are 13% in India, so they chose Secularism. Again HYPOCRISY.
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by koblenz koblenz on Jan 01, 2008 06:44 PM Permalink
People like Shahab Khan try to be very clever. They cleverly equate all the so called enemies of Islam = enemies of India, so that can always hide the true reasons of their hatred for America and Israel and give a false pretense that they hate the said countries out of their patriotism of India. Where as the truth is, that their hate for AMerica and Israel has nothing to do with India, but has all to do with their loyalty to Islam and other muslim countries.
