I have a sincere question for Marathi people. What is your problem with North Indians settling in Mumbai? Do you know that Mumbai's local trains are being subsidized by the rest of India? Your state has produced great men like Shivaji and Ambedkar. In Hyderabad, the Ganesh Chathurthi festival celebrations are inspired by the Mumbai ones. In AP, your Shiridi Sai baba is very popular. We in AP had no problems in adopting some of your Marathi customs. Now please answer my question. What problem do you have with North Indians? What is the problem if North Indians want to celebrate Chath puja in Mumbai? Please be sincere in your reply.
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by Fun Lover on Feb 24, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
Huh! For 50 long years we were under socialist economy. During this period, the Indian politicians only concentrated on developing the metros and their adjoining areas. Mumbai also initially had a high advantage because of the British people developing it. So during the initial 50 years, UP and Bihar were highly neglected and these states slid backward because of unequal development policies. And you guys in Mumbai took a lot of resources from the rest of the country. Now you don't even have some courtesy to return the favour?
RE:Question to Marathi people
by Mubeen Pasha on Feb 24, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
And you want to say that maharastra was a heaven before all this people migrated there....have you heard "kuan ka mendhak"
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by Ajmal basha on Feb 24, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
I think and feel Raj is right, I am a hyderabadi and was staying some time in Nashik, due to my work I have seen many places in india and also many towns in maharashtra. The condition of mumbai specially is vulnerable, believe me all you folks including all North indians who feel this is wrong will behave the same way as Raj is doing if outsiders come and occupy your land, your work oppourtunity, create havoc due to excessive population./...... Biharis specially are people who can work anywere in india, this included UP guys as well but Marathi guys are a bit different they cannot work outside maharashtra, this could be possibly due to the fact that the development in Maha has been quite good from ages and hence they didnt got the oppourtunity to go outside. Know things are becomming different for marathis and in any of the case it is their land and they have the first right and hence we should understand them as our brothers and let them live happily and lets create space for ourself in our place. Let me tell you the day is not far that similar agitation will come for hyderabad, in a span of 3-5 years we hyderabadis have become less and andhrites have phenominally grown, every street is packed, no space, trafic all these due to Andhrites, we hyderabadis are acepting as we dont have option but if it was due to kerelaites, biharis we wouldnt have tolerated. So what Raj is doing is not wrong, his intention may or may not be wrong but the issue is of concern for marathis and tha
RE:Question to Marathi people
by swapnil daingade on Feb 24, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
dude! Mumbai accounts for 35% of India's tax collection. You arent paying for Mumbai, Mumbai is paying for you. I aiant from Mumbai, I dont live in Mimbai but still have a great respect for the city.
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by shalini verma on Feb 24, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
Yeah dude! But the Tax is generated when people from the rest of India the stuff. It just so happens that the HQs are in Mumbai. Anyway now not many companies want to make Mumbai its HQ. So very soon Mumbai's tax base will go down and then you will be eating your own words.
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by Fun Lover on Feb 24, 2008 07:39 PM Permalink
And Mumbai is accounting for 35 % because people from all over India have set up industries there and developed that place. Not because of Raj Thackeray's gang.
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by Ramesh Arya on Feb 24, 2008 07:29 PM Permalink
U r wrong Mr. Fun lover. Mumbai local trains are not subsidised by rest of India. Check up your records. Mumbai Local train service is the highest revenue earner for railways, Comparatively facilities are very few compared to elsewhere like at Kolkata and Delhi.
RE:Question to Marathi people
by Fun Lover on Feb 24, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
Huh! Why do you think that the fares of local trains are low in Mumbai? Because they are subsidized by the rest of India.
RE:Question to Marathi people
by Mubeen Pasha on Feb 24, 2008 07:28 PM Permalink
The problem is most of the people posting here mean to say people using foul language are the internate cafe operators who dont have anythign to do and with there little knowledge become great politicains of country
RE:Question to Marathi people
by Suraj Singh on Feb 24, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
The use it as a political rally. Live in Mumbai to know the facts.
"We participate in Gujarati garba and Bengali navratri. When south Indians perform Ayappa puja, some Maharashtrians offer special prayers," Raj said.
"But Chhat puja is not celebrated as a religious festival in Mumbai. It has become the arena of Bihari leaders and goondas to show their strength to the state," he said.
RE:Question to Marathi people
by preeti on Feb 24, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
Read Raj's reply again. North indians not only want to 'settle' , they want to humiliate local people, insult local culture and eventually wipe it out. The marathis living in AP are not insulting AP culture or people. That's the difference. And it's not just marathis, but every one else including Sheela Dixit having problem with north indians!
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by Vijay Shanker on Feb 24, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
No doubt that north Indians particularly people from UP and Bihar are a bit either ill-cultured or arrogant or to some extent ignorant. I myself is from UP and aware of this fact. There is a saying in Hindi - " Jaisa Raja Vaisee Prajaa." Therefore, I would say that it is not the problem of people in general but few create problems for everyone. But solution is not to throw them out of Maharashtra. Rather, a system should have been worked out to make each and every person conscious of being in a discipline. We Indians do not believe in being in a disciplined manner within India but the moment we go to Europe or USA, we automatically start inoculating their disciplinary norms. It is simply because their country's disciplined way of life is so strong that there is no room left for anyone to disobey. On the similar grounds, leaders in Maharashtra should take some pain and introduce systems and make them mandatory for everyone to follow. Those who will feel uncomfortable in living in that situation will automatically leave the state and those who want to live will amend their behaviour automatically and move alongwoith the mainstream. But for that the local leaders whether he is Raj Thackery or Udhav Thackery or anyone else will have to be in discipline first and then they would be morally right in asking other to follow the rules. Simply throwing out someone or any community without any fault in particular is just like Gunda Raaj. If in the eyes of Raj Thakery, North Indians are
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
leader of oppn in BMC one Bhaiya demanded tomake Hindi as official langauge. How this bhaiya can dare in Mumbai? This is humiliation of Marathi pride. He should be thrown out of Mumabai immediately. This is pure Bhaiya Giri
RE:Question to Marathi people
by preeti on Feb 24, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
They say that language of business in BMC should be Hindi. In this ENTIRE country, NOWHERE the language in local corporation is other than the state's local language. Why should Hindi be made the language of work in Maharashtra? This is one example. They REFUSE to learn local marathi language. Is that fair? Can u imagine someone going to Tamilnadu and demanding Hindi be made language of work in corporations across TN?
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by Gaurav Goel on Feb 24, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
Preeti but Northy create Business for Marathiies right? Zee, Sahara, Jet, UB group, Air Tel, and many small indutries. From 10,000 people entering into Bombay, atleast 1 becomes a successful Businessman. So logically migration has always been a key factor in any country's success. Now these leaders are frustated not because migration but because they have to work there butt out to improve infrastructure to handle so many people. Tell me one thing. We have money, cheap labor. Can't we make mumbai inot honkkong or shangai. But the fact is Marathi leader deshmukh doen't want to. That's my Argument . Look at newyork. Newyork Handle more people than Mumbai. There are local train running in 4 levels. We can make that. We have technonology. But Marathi leaders like northy leaders have failed us. I tell you the in the absense of compettion marathi will suffer. In US also I see all the high post are handeled by Northy or southy and poor marathi working as an avg. guy in a company. In just 3 years after competing my education, I have 5 marathi working for me. I being from BIMARU state. That's agression that these states bring to Bombay and mrathi Lags.
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by preeti on Feb 24, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
Gaurav, Northies as in UP-Bihar lalu-mulayam type people! They do not create business for marathis! Businessmen are marwari, gujrati, parsi, punjabi, bengali, south indian, and MNCs. Nobody is talking of throwing them out! All big cities are cosmopolitan. But if the northies occupy mumbai at this rate, not just marathis, but even the marwari,gujrati, south indians and others living in mumbai will suffer big time.
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:42 PM Permalink
How can ypu say marathis are workilng at low level. You dont know Vikram Pandit is CEO of one of the biggest bank ( Citi Bank) in US. Let me tel you only iliterates can critisised Marathis. If any body is self respected, should live Mumbai and go to their own state. If I willbe offered big post in Bihar I wont accept. Check any IAS preferes 1st Mah, Guj, Pujab etc only bottom merit accepts bihar/up
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by preeti on Feb 24, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
Also, even if the industries indeed move out of Maharashtra due to this issue, it won't affect marathis because they were not getting any profit/jobs from these industries anyway! Marathis were not so good at business earlier but the new generation is pretty business savvy..we can develop maharashtra on our own..u go and develop ur bihar first!
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:56 PM Permalink
Due to this issue no inds will move out of Maharashtra. Becuse it is having natural co hecieve atmosphree for business that is why Indies are purchasing land at worlds highst cost. and expanding their business. in one discussion Shekar Suman told that Amitabh, Shaharukh etc ( out siders)had brought Mumbai fame. It they go out, fame will also disappear. here I want to tell They not brought fame. Mumbai made them famous, other wise they would have been really chhoras
RE:Question to Marathi people
by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
Raj is not having any problem to celebrate chhat Puja, but to demonstrate their north India srength they wanted to celebrate "uttar Bharatiya Diwas" from where they derive this Diwas? Just to show Dadagiri and that Raj dont want.
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:28 PM Permalink
Do you know one bhaiya in BMC ( leader of oppn) demanded to make Hindi as MNCs officil language. How this Bhaiya could dare? In Mumbai.
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by amit sharma on Feb 24, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
CUM ON..PEOPLE IN BMC..SAID circulars should also be in hindi ..along with marathi and english..whats the problem in 3 language formula
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by Fun Lover on Feb 24, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
Dude, just because some body said that Hindi should be made as an official language of MNC, it does not mean that it is an insult to Marathi. And it doesn't justify driving out N Indians from Maharashtra.
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
When they wanted to show strenghth, than Puja. It becomes nautanki.
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by Gopal Patil on Feb 24, 2008 07:29 PM Permalink
When they wanted to show strenghth, than Puja. It becomes nautanki.
