Check his message -------------------------------------------------------- RE:No Valid replies. by Truth Exposer on Feb 23, 2008 07:56 PM I dont want to argue with you on false msgs if you really want to debate with me write somethig logically you will difinitely get answeres for that ------------------------------------------------------------
Mr.Truth exposer - Thanks for acknowleding that your koran and mohammed teachings are false. you yourself have agreed in this message that those are false messages. I have taken all the verses from Koran.But you are acknowledging it as false messages.
Great man. When Koran and Hadiths are exposed,islam has to hide like you.
i will keep posting certain other verses from koran. Keep explaining to the board. Do you need any more from koran and hadith.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by on Feb 23, 2008 08:09 PM Permalink
Mr.Truth- Can you explain this to the board.i hope you are reading koran and hadiths. Every verse i have taken in Koran.
The Koran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens.
However, in reality the stars are much further away from the earth than the moon.
(Koran 67:3-5) He Who created the seven heavens, one above the other...And WE have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...
(Koran 71:15-16) Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst,and made the sun as a lamp?
(Koran 71:41:12) And He completed the seven heavens in two days and inspired in each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and rendered it guarded...
Firstly, the Koran states that there are seven heavens in universe. Any sane person who has studied a bit of Modern Astronomy can tell that the conception of seven heavens was nothing but a result of Mohammed's absurd imagination. Muslim compliers try to cover up this serious flaw in the Koran by saying that the expression should be considered poetic rather than scientific.
Secondly, Koran claims that the stars are in a lower or even lowest heaven, while the moon is in a middle heaven. Even a child in primary standard knows today that the stars are much much further away from the earth than the moon.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by on Feb 23, 2008 08:08 PM Permalink
Mr.Truth- Can you explain this to the board.i hope you are reading koran and hadiths. Every verse i have taken in Koran.
The Koran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens.
However, in reality the stars are much further away from the earth than the moon.
(Koran 67:3-5) He Who created the seven heavens, one above the other...And WE have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...
(Koran 71:15-16) Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst,and made the sun as a lamp?
(Koran 71:41:12) And He completed the seven heavens in two days and inspired in each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and rendered it guarded...
Firstly, the Koran states that there are seven heavens in universe. Any sane person who has studied a bit of Modern Astronomy can tell that the conception of seven heavens was nothing but a result of Mohammed's absurd imagination. Muslim compliers try to cover up this serious flaw in the Koran by saying that the expression should be considered poetic rather than scientific.
Secondly, Koran claims that the stars are in a lower or even lowest heaven, while the moon is in a middle heaven. Even a child in primary standard knows today that the stars are much much further away from the earth than the moon.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by MBotha on Feb 23, 2008 09:23 PM Permalink
dude, it is not for layman to interpret on quranic verses, picking out of context verses with intention of demeaning does no good. Having said that what is mentioned in Quran is beyond any doubt and is truth and nothing but truth. Keep harping out of context verses, mankind for 1429 years has tried to change holy quran, forget a word they could not succeed in changing a letter. And thats quran. The chanllegne is still on, keep trying!!
You are just a mortal with a limited knowledge, whose knowldge keeping chaning everyday. What is ok to day is harmful tomorrow. science is exact thing which looks ok for this moment, but is not so the next, due to limitations of mankind. do not compare mans knowledge with the All Knowing. dude, keep learning, we have a long way to go...
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by Sunny Armageddon on Feb 23, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
Koran 67:3 verse is as under:
67:3 [Hallowed be] He who has created seven heavens in full harmony with one another: [2] no fault will thou see in the creation of the Most Gracious. And turn thy vision [upon it] once more: canst thou see any flaw?
Koran 71: 15
Nuh (Noah)
71:15 "'Do you not see how God has created seven heavens in full harmony with one another, [8]
71:16 71:16 and has set up within them the moon as a light [reflected] and set up the sun as a [radiant] lamp? [9]
Your third reference is wrong as there is no 41st verse as are the other translations and ofcourse your interpretations. If you have any clarifications, do mail me coz i am a student of comparitive religions. byjoveh@rediffmail.com
