RE:Muslims of India
by tabraiz khan on Feb 24, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
Traiters are found not just in muslim community but also in Hindu community. The fact that Hindus are not reckoned currently because the common perception is that India belongs to Hindus and why Hindus will betray their country ?. Their betrayal is taken just as a revolt rather then being a traitor. When muslims were ruling India,many Hindus betrayed India more then one can remember now, assuming it to be a revolt just against muslims rather then against India but still Muslims never branded the entire Hindu community as traitors or terrorist.
RE:Muslims of India
by surath mukherjee on Feb 24, 2008 02:06 PM Permalink
Tabraiz for your kind information the person who revolted against the Islam invaders are treated as Freedom fighter and are given a heroic place in History like Rana Pratap Shing , Shaivaji etc. Moreover you were also an Hindu and after subjected to torture and for the sake of existence your forefathers converted to ISlamism. Muslims of never belong to Mughal ,Pathan etc.
RE:Muslims of India
by tabraiz khan on Feb 24, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
Dear Surath, your freedom fighters like Rana Pratap who was against Mughal emperor Akbar never fought for Hinduism nor Akbar for Islam.Rana pratap just trying to save his kingdom and Akbar pursuing his imperialism.even Shivaji though a hero for Marathas(irrespectively of Hindus or Muslims) didnt do anything good for non-marathas. They were fighting for freedom just to maintain their kingdoms. It was only power which brought them against each other even today Congress and BJP fighting for power, Musharaf and Nawaz sharif and bhuttos for power. The lust for power is never ending. You are right when you say that many Hindus were forced during medieval period to convert them to Islam, but if this policy would have been generalised then the entire Indian population would have been muslims, but the fact remains that when the new converts got aware of Islam, they were not only proud to be part of it but sacrificed their lives in the name of Islam without any second thought. On the other hand Islam was not spread just by the power of sword, if you take East asian nations like Indonesia,malaysia,philipines, thailand etc, no muslim army reached there but Islam spread like anything. Proud to be an Indian, proud to be an Muslim, and respect for all Indians.
RE:Muslims of India
by rationalist on Feb 24, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
Dear tarbraiz
Your thoughts are reasonable to a great extent, but for a small point
It is true, that hindus , who got converted became proud of their muslim identity later..True. but this has to do a couple of things
1.There is nothing in Hinduism that could instill a feeling of Guilt in them for being converted. Any convert from Hinduism to any other religious never carries a feeling of guilt with the, It leaves people free to choose. 2. Hinduism (in general -exceptions cud be there)do not instill fear in its followers that they feel terrible about the punishment from Hindu Gods for being converted into another religion
Due to the above two reasons the converted Hindus never felt the need to convert back
Also, the converted people were treated better by the ruling Muslim class than the Hindus who were not converted, there by increasing the stature of converted hindus in the society. Also Muslim as religion promotes extreme equality and brotherhood amongst its own members, so the converted Hindus were easily assimilated to the muslim fold.
Also the converted Hindus , were unarmed and dismantled, their movements controlled by the ruling muslim dynasties so that it was almost impossible to come out..
Also , after one or two generation under the above mentioned conditions, a normal hindu convert would have little intentions to go back to his parent religion, when the ruling class remind muslims and he getting privileges in his new found status.
RE:Muslims of India
by monjul islam on Feb 24, 2008 11:25 AM Permalink
The threat of communial violence in my Great Country is mostly due to IRRESPONSIBLE comments of IRRESPONSIBLE and narrow minded citizen like you.
RE:Muslims of India
by mohd uddin on Feb 24, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
i am a muslim...and i am proud indian..u knw in islam... u have to follow the rules of your country...and dyin for ur mother land is of great honour...
