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  RE:MEET THE EDUCATED
by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 05:07 PM   Permalink
Have you fully appreciated what Islam is? It is indeed a religion founded on truth. It is such a fountain head of learning that
several streams of wisdom and knowledge flow from it. It is such a lamp that a myriad of lamps will be lighted from it. It is a lofty
beacon of light illuminating the path of Allah. It is such a set of principles and beliefs that will fully satisfy every seeker of truth
and reality. Know you all, that Allah has made Islam the most sublime path for the attainment of His supreme pleasure and the
highest standard of His worship and obedience. He has favoured it with noble precepts, exalted principles, undoubtable
arguments, unchallengeable supremacy and undeniable wisdom. It is up to you to maintain the eminence and dignity granted
to it by the Lord, to follow it sincerely, to do justice to its articles of faith and belief, to obey implicitly its tenets and orders and
to give it the proper place in your lives.

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  RE:MEET THE EDUCATED
by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 05:10 PM   Permalink
vjmumbai to reply to your answer i need 4-5 pages will you please give me your e-mail id soo that i can answer you in detail about your soo called allegations against the greatest man ever to walk on the face of earth Prophet Mohammed ( may peace bleassing and mercy of Allah be upon him )

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  RE:MEET THE EDUCATED
by vjmumbai on Feb 24, 2008 05:49 PM   Permalink
Please note that there are no allegation, BUT THE TRUTH.
It is said that TRUTH HURTS.
So, please open your eyes and I recommend you to read the holy book properly. Whatever is mentioned here is the TRUTH.
I CAN QUOTE YOU VERSES FROM THE HOLY BOOK, probably which you may not have read at all, and even if you have read the book YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS WRITTEN because if is in a FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

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by Elite Focus on Feb 26, 2008 07:49 PM   Permalink
Terrorist are taking advantage of the people like here who are nagging each other and trying to blakken each others face. Their main aim is that Hindus muslims should fight. U people are fulfilling their disires. Try to be united and see what can they do!

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by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 05:56 PM   Permalink
lol..vjmumbai ....islam is the only religion on the face of the earth which replies to each and every allegation ..the questions you are asking here has been answered convincingly by many scholars why are you wasting your time by typing again and again the same shit..why not give your e-mail i will send you there...are you that scared to read it so that it might effect your heart or the second option is that you already know the answers and you just spreading venom and abuse why not dare to give your e-mail adress,,,, lets have a debate you think you have good knoledge ..right?

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by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 07:06 PM   Permalink
dont worry abhinav islam goes with science completely..actually science is doing nothing but prooving quran..just have a e-mail debate

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by vjmumbai on Feb 24, 2008 07:30 PM   Permalink
1) there is no allegation, but all the way TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
2) what is written is not shit, but about FACTS and if you think its shit, then the topic discussed is about YOU BEING EDUCATED & MOREOVER A MUSLIM.
3) Why do you fear what is written here, you are afraid that someone is exposing the TRUTH ?
and you want it to be written in a concealed way. KEEP WRITING. Furthermore, I am not interested to discuss with you, coz I have done so with many a people of your kind.
4) Yes my heart is affected with what YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE ARE DOING TO MANKIND.
5) There is no venom but THERE IS TRUTH ALL THE WAY.
I dont think anyone have good knowledge NOT EVEN YOU. Debates dont take us anywhere. But, the whole world can see what is happening around and the people will judge for themselves. Many peoples whose hearts you guys have affected at that moment, LATER REPENT FOR THE WRONG STEP THEY HAVE TAKEN, BECAUSE YOU WILL KILL THEM IF THEY REVERT BACK TO THEIR OLD RELIGION OR LEAVE YOUR RELIGION.

ITS SIMPLE AND ITS THE TRUTH ALL THE WAY.

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by Shesh Lak on Feb 24, 2008 08:36 PM   Permalink
It is something everyone should know. Science
don't go hand to hand with religion. Science
don't believe in existence of god. Science
believes in fact and not fiction. So be in any
religion science doesn't endorse it.
Science is beyond religion based on true fact
and no religion has any patent on science. The
problem is we call ourself an educated person
but so much blind about the reality. If we look
from the perspective of science then there wont
be any problem related to religion, because then
what we believe is truth. Religion, god, hell,
heaven everything is factious. If you are going
to argue on my comments then first get me the
proof for the God's existence, heaven and hell.
No one would ever be able to do answer this. It
is something more of a realization. You live on
earth and you are gonna die here. Hence you are
going to experience everything here only.
It is just human mind which has come to the age
where his thinking power is being controlled by
fictions rather than fact. Its better to live
like animal without thinking about all these
nonsense. IF you have got the brain then why
don't you use it for the betterment for the
society rather than spoiling it for something
which is totally fake.
I challenge everyone, if you can prove a
particular allegation with scientific facts then
answer me else there is no point blabbering
here just in the name of your religion.
AND MORE OVER, REDIFF MUST STOP DICUSSION
BOARD IMMEDIATELY.

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by Shesh Lak on Feb 24, 2008 08:34 PM   Permalink
It is something everyone should know. Science do go hand to hand with religion. Science don't believe in existence of god. Science believes in fact and not fiction. So be in any religion science doesn't endorse it.
Science is beyond religion based on true fact and no religion has any patent on science. The problem is we call ourself an educated person but so much blind about the reality. If we look from the perspective of science then there wont be any problem related to religion, because then what we believe is truth. Religion, god, hell, heaven everything is factious. If you are going to argue on my comments then first get me the proof for the God's existence, heaven and hell. No one would ever be able to do answer this. It is something more of a realization. You live on earth and you are gonna die here. Hence you are going to experience everything here only.
It is just human mind which has come to the age where his thinking power is being controlled by fictions rather than fact. Its better to live like animal without thinking about all these nonsense. IF you have got the brain then why don't you use it for the betterment for the society rather than spoiling it for something which is totally fake.
I challenge everyone, if you can prove a particular allegation with scientific facts then answer me else there is no point blabbering here just in the name of your religion.
AND MORE OVER, REDIFF MUST STOP DICUSSION BOARD IMMEDIATELY. IT IS DOING NO GOOD.

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by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 07:02 PM   Permalink
i have answer for that also abhinav but i cant paste that all here rediff will abuse it or it will be reported as spam...kindly give me your e-mail if ..lets have a frutfull discussion not just time pass discussion..why not conect thru e-mail ..thats would be great idea isnt it?

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by Singh on Feb 25, 2008 11:29 PM   Permalink
come on man.. every religion has same BS in it.. hinduism says Hanuman ate the Sun... Shani,Shukra etc are devta's.. aren't these planets?.. so dont try to confuse science with religion its an age old debate

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by vjmumbai on Feb 24, 2008 05:40 PM   Permalink
There is no need to write pages after pages, because the world is not blind, but the followers are blinded. We can see the contradictions what is written and what is practised. Those who do not know the truth can be fooled but those who know the truth will run away. Is is not true that you can have only 4 wives while your prophet had about 13/14 wives, is it not true that your prophet married a child of 6years old, is it not true that you can beat your wife, is it not tru that you can kill your own brother, sister, father, mother if they leave their religion. it is not true that you can kill non-believers and you are rewarded heaven. is it not true that you can have sex and wine in heaven, but not here on earth. ALL THIS IS IN THE HOLY BOOK.
SO, I REQUEST ALL MY FRIEDS&MUSLIMS TO READ THEIR HOLY BOOK AND REASON AND DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT IS WRITE AND WHAT IS WRONG.

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  RE:MEET THE EDUCATED
by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 06:07 PM   Permalink
i replied to that last time you asked give your mail adress i will answer you in detail

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by Farooq on Feb 24, 2008 05:06 PM   Permalink
Islam has been put under the microscope of dissension, abuse and slander by intolerant, shameless and fanatical
anti-Islamists since the advent of the Final Revelation fourteen centuries ago. Today is no different and the denigration has
found a new battle field on the internet. Contrastingly, Islam has grown amidst such questions in the past fourteen centuries to
command humungous following. Whenever Islam has stood to be questioned, Islam has answered; and answered convincingly
and admirably to all those who question it; may they be polemics or apologists, seekers of truth or malicious swindlers. Islam's
true awareness is spread even further and beyond on the spur of such questions to which Islam itself responds admirably.
Time has testified to this fact.

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by spg on Feb 25, 2008 09:48 AM   Permalink
I have a simple question to everybody on the forum. Who is the witenss to the Prophethood of Mohmad. Who saw that Allah sent mohmad or mohmad being annointed as a prophet. One Witness please. As per my knowledge goes, it was all mohmad who declared himself prophet and started talking abt islam.If there is no witness then tomorrow even i can say i am the prophet. Don;t u ppl think, the entire drama done by mohmad was crap.

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  RE:MEET THE EDUCATED
by vjmumbai on Feb 24, 2008 04:54 PM   Permalink
MEET THE EDUCATED posted by vjmumbai is in response to Farooq who said :
Be away from acts of shame (pornography,illegal sex etc), and sins(lies,alcoholism,thefts,bribery,giving false testimony in courts etc)


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