Theism is a hypothesis which, among other things, attempts an explanation of the universe. The theist recognizes a creator who created the universe and is responsible for its operation. The atheist clearly perceives that the assumption of a creator does not advance him in the slightest degree towards the solution of the mysterious problem of the universe. The oft-repeated question still admits of no answer, "Who created the creator"?
It is an absurd answer to reply that the creator created himself, yet, even if this is granted, may not the universe have created itself? If the theist puts forward the statement that God has always existed, the atheist may well reply that if God has always existed, why can he not say that the universe has always existed? The atheist is not concerned with the creation of the universe; to him it presents a problem which is beyond the comprehension of his present mental capacities. He comprehends the fact of its being, and that is as far as he or any rational mind can go. Atheism confines itself to a refutation of theism, and avoids the theistic fallacy of assuming without any proofs or reasonable arguments to substantiate286 the assumption of an intelligent, omnipotent, omniscient, anthropomorphic, and anthropocentric creator. The theistic assumption has but retarded the advance of practical knowledge, and prepared the soil for superstition and the countless terrors of religious beliefs.
Various upanishads attack the same issue (of creation and creator) from various angles, because there is no singl eprecise way of expressing it.
One Upanishad says, in the beginning, there was only God and nothing else. A thought arose in him, "May I become many?". And, so he spun out of himself this entire world of myriad forms, just as a spider spins a web out of itself!
The question, "who created the creator", does not arise, because the definition of creator is that omnipotent, omnipresent entity, whom nobody created.
Nobody created him, he was always there, and he will always be there and he is eternal.
RE:Who created the Creator?????
by Nanchil on Feb 20, 2008 05:26 PM Permalink
Why do you hate JGN. JGN will become mad after reading your message. Please spare him.
RE:Who created the Creator?????
by Nanchil on Feb 20, 2008 05:35 PM Permalink
The problem is that you are thinking that christians are your enemies. I think you have less opportunity to interact with christians. The truth is that we love India as much as you do. We follow the Indian culture and not European culture. We are peacefully coexisting with hindus. You can see this in kerala and other parts of south India. The thing is ideological differences have no relation with personal relationship.
I definitely agree and understand that many people are hurt by the caste system, but converting to Christianity or any other religion is not a solution. My humble opinion!
Well, we can meet again on the net some other day, discuss and fight again.
RE:RE:Who created the Creator?????
by JGN on Feb 20, 2008 05:56 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>JGN will become mad after reading your message.............I an only sympathise with people like you who believe in fairy tales!!! I will neither get mad nor do I have any hatred for you.
RE:Who created the Creator?????
by JGN on Feb 20, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>creation and the creator are one.........I created myself!!!!!! Good idea!!!!!
RE:Who created the Creator?????
by onelifetogo on Feb 20, 2008 05:26 PM Permalink
You question itself shows that you believe in a "Creator", then why dont you ask the Creator you fool? why are you trying to find confusing answers from the Human race and get confused again?
