Whole of America is a case of illegal immigrants. White settlers cruelly annihilated the local population. Slave trade, slave colonies and convicts formed large part of American history. The most sly, criminal politics is from US, as they have crime in their blood.
RE:It's their heritage
by Anil Kumar on Feb 19, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
Well, this happened with India too. Aryans are not native Indians. They migrated to the northern India (from northern Eurasia?) because of weather conditions, perhaps 1000-2000 years ago. Even the Muslims are not native to India. They came in 7th century. Then again, there was no single, real, united India. Whatever the Bharatvarsh we have been taught about in schools perhaps existed a long time ago, and there is no historical evidence in any form to prove that this country was ever under the control of one king. There were always alliances, of course. So, what's the big deal about Europeans migrating to North America about 400 years ago? Only a mere 50/60 years ago people were still practicing slavery in America (in the form segregation, not exactly like the slavery before civil war,it's the slavery mentality I am talking about). When you put things in context, it is only in the last 2 to 3 decades we - the humans - started making conscious efforts to become more civilized. Alas, even that was lost with terrorism and pre-emptive wars. We don't live in a perfect world. Nobody is clean.
RE:It's their heritage
by dtr on Feb 19, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
Adivasis. DNA traces conducted by archaeological/Scientific communities shows that, humans migrated out of africa several times as batches. Some of the batches reached south India (crossing arabian sea, which was much shallower during those days), and spread to south east asia. Aborigines in Australia, Tribals in Papua Nugenea (who still preserves their 8000 year old traditions) are examples.
RE:It's their heritage
by jihu on Feb 19, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
so technically no one apart from adivasis and other tribes can claim ownership? vow i did not know that.
Those who propose and insist on these Immigration theories are firstly People So incapable of Surviving in their own Motherlands.
Otherwise, I challenge them if they will first of ALL go to their Ancestoral (10000 generations behind) place of Origin And just Arrest Themselves there ? If they can do it first Let them do it and then speak anything else. Otherwise, They are just concocting stories to justify their own deeds.
BTW, What are the Total Number of Human Genes existent in this world ? How many are clearly Identified ?
Like All Humans have pairs of eyes, ears, nostrils, hands and legs, etc., Genes also will have some common features. So, Identifying some Gene Family is not sufficient. All the 100% Genes existing in anyone Human is essential. Has it ever been done ?
RE:It's their heritage
by Anil Kumar on Feb 19, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
Good question. Dravidians are natives of southern parts of India. It is quite understandable because of warm weather. As far as northern parts of India are concerned, I have not read anything about any local race that existed there before the Aryans migrated. It is plausible that it was largely inhabited? The real question is, was there ever one country called Bharat (or Bharatvarsh) with one identity? It is extremely unlikely since the south itself was never completely under the control of one ruler.
RE:It's their heritage
by jihu on Feb 19, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
i dont think you can completely eliminate the sound scientific proof that dtr has provided. seems to be valid. the tribes are short, dark and have their own disctinctive style come to think of it.
also i think the sentalese tribe in car nicobar are 5 feet tall and have unique hair and traditions.
RE:It's their heritage
by Gadi Mama on Feb 19, 2008 11:32 PM Permalink
I read about Aryan migration. It is proved scietifically by DNA tests that no such migration happened at all. First humans come to Indian Subcontinent some 50,000 yrs back. Ref Bhimbetka cave pictures in MP & book "Human History using DNA". Aryan migration theory is to make Britishers accepted in India as another migrants. Anybody questioned themselves who will use chariots in hilly areas of Central Asia as we taught in books.
