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by kalyan ram on Feb 17, 2008 11:15 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

ok. please write khuran in english.....so that we can all read authentic books of islam.....we all cannot learn arabic, urdu now to read authentic books of islam....if you dont think it as blashphemy translate all islamic books to english so that we all can understand about islam......but you will never do that.....why do you want us to learn arbic to learn about islam?......many hindu religious books are translated in to english and many westerners now have an better understanding about hinduism....you have to take initiative to educate us about islam not we have to learn arabic to learn about islam......


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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:25 PM   Permalink
i dont know if you know even little bit about islam. i am just surprised to see the little knowledge you guys have got about islam and how arrogantly you behave like you know every thing.
you are talking about language. man if you ask me which language contains maximum number of books in islam then you will surprised with my answer, IT IS ENGLISH.
not arabic. and writing quran in english is not blasphemy. but that can be only transaltion. you cant say it is exact quran and it is justified as Allah's book cant be translated with 100 % accuracy by a man. so many (no less than 100) people have tried to reach the english speaking people by translating this divine book into english.
yes i read vedas, bhagwad geeta and that too isnot blasphemy in islam. we must ready and undersand every thing and follow only what is right.
just type in google, quran in english and you will get so many translations. pick just one and start understanding it. and please stop spreading rumors and you can see that you have so many false ideas like translating quran in english is blasphemy and all. learn and follow the truth.

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by kalyan ram on Feb 17, 2008 11:46 PM   Permalink
yes goden i have hadiths in english......but there are many xenophobic statemnents about non- muslims......like allah dont consider non-muslims as humans.....so there is justification in killing non-muslims and muslims should use every means like imposition of taxes, raping their women, violence toc onvert non-muslims to islam......how do you explain them?.....

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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:54 PM   Permalink
either you have some rotten book or you have some book which is giving idea of hadeeth (ofcourse wrong) written by some enemies of islam.
Allah says i have created all human kind for my worship and those who dont worship, Allah says go to them and let them know what i expect from them (not fight to them). if Allah thinks that all those who dont worship Him are not human why He will ask His servants to go to these people.
there is not justification of killing non muslims. only wroing doers and those who create mischiefs are supposed to be killed and that too by the law authorit. i am muslims it doesnt mean i have got right to go and kill someone who i think is a criminal.
islam says, protect the weak and women.
islam has very extensive rule for even war that we sould not harm the nature, we should not cut down the trees which muslims ahve faced for long as thier enemies tried to cut down their rations.
islam asks to rape women. are you joking, islam doesnt allowe illegal relations with any women. islam will allow rape. islam says to chop of his head if he has raped any women. and people say it is barbaric and you are saying this. i am surprised, howmuchyou know about islam and also what kind of book you have in your hand. it surely not the book of islam if this teaches you all these things.

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by grir reeg on Feb 17, 2008 11:31 PM   Permalink
golden since u read vedas, can u tell me a bit abt them?

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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:47 PM   Permalink
i replied to you but it is going in reporting mode all the time. i think some verses explained are containing idol worship and condemning of worshiping more than one god and that is becoming abuses for rediff machine perhaps. though i did not abuse any one.

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by on Feb 17, 2008 11:40 PM   Permalink
Every bacha knows about Islam. If you kill, maim innocents , you go to heaven to enjoy free sex.

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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:55 PM   Permalink
yes,, you are right because the propaganda is very strong and muslims dont know howto fight this. butthe moment this bachcha bachcha become young and starts learning and reasoning thinks about islam and embraces islam. how many exmple do you want let me know brother.

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by rakshak on Feb 18, 2008 12:04 AM   Permalink
GOLDEN YOUR JEHADI BROTHERS ARE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR HEAVEN, THEY ARE READING QURAN FOR HEAVEN, THEY ARE GOIING AND THROWING STONES IN HAJ FOR HEAVEN . WHY IS YOUR MOTHER A COUSIN SISTER OF YOUR FATHER

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by Golden on Feb 18, 2008 12:14 AM   Permalink
your abuses have got no answers by the way. your culture is very much evident any way.
there is nothing wrong in marrying cousins. at least we dont indulge in illegal relations like most of our kafir brothers. they dont care because they know it is bad but there is not fear for them. they just go do any thing they want. muslims have got God's fear and then restrict themselves.


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by rakshak on Feb 18, 2008 12:32 AM   Permalink
GOLDEN KAFIR THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN MARRYING COUSINS THEN WHY DONT YOUR MARRY YOUR MOTHER, SISTER IN LAW, DAUGHTER IN LAW OH SORRY I FORGOT NONE OF YOUR SISTERS ARE SAFE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN WHAT MAD PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF FAMILY YOU ARE BORN IN

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by india salute on Feb 18, 2008 12:20 AM   Permalink
Golden - When you will be going to heaven by becoming suicide bomber?

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by rakshak on Feb 18, 2008 12:09 AM   Permalink
YOU PRAY TO ALLAH FOR HEAVEN, YOU ARE SO SELFISH GOLDEN, BUT PLEASE LET OTHERS LIVE IN PEACE, GOLDEN THINKS ALL NON MUSLIMS AS ENEMIES AND JUSTIFY TO KILL THEM THIS IS NOT FAIR GOLDEN

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by Golden on Feb 18, 2008 12:16 AM   Permalink
you let muslims live in peace you will be in peace. no body is bothered to disturb you. thereare millions of coptic christians (christians by generations) in saudi arabia who were never troubled or forced to accept islam.they lived in peace and they were not harmed.
ifyou think you will touble us and we shall live you inpeace then just forget it. we shall chase you till your grave. we win or die. we dont lose.

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by india salute on Feb 17, 2008 11:58 PM   Permalink
yes Golden you are right..
bachcha bachcha become young and starts learning and reasoning thinks about islam and embraces islam and become SUICIDE BOMBER..
I LOVE ISLAM FOR MAKING MILLION MILLION SUICIDE BOMBER AND DESTROYING CIVILIZATION...:)

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by Golden on Feb 18, 2008 12:02 AM   Permalink
your rhetoric has got no soluiton. i keep answering but you are so adamant thatyou keep putting thesame thing again and again.
there is not harm even in making suicide bomber if you have nothing to harm the enemy. hawaldaar hameed used his body and died while destroying pakistani tank on the border during indopak war. was that wrong. if indians have got right to protect then any body has got the same right. why crying for this...
at least islam doesnt teaches hatred even for enemies. i saw DAV school is preparing a generation of hatred by teaching hatred to its school children.
fighting spirit should be there thereis notihing wroingh in it. we must fightfor right. every body does only dead dont do this.

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by india salute on Feb 18, 2008 12:06 AM   Permalink
Golden,
Please complete your reading first..Why different religion fight with each other, so well expalined in below..
Please go through all the lecture of Swami Vivekananda in America then you wil come to know about different religion and their limitation..
"vivekananda.net/Lectures.html"


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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:45 PM   Permalink
that's what youknow. your own mentality will teach you what you should learn. quran and islam teaches thepeace and lead a peaceful life but some liars have just demonised it and some idiots just believe it. but truth still remains truth and any one who reads quran and hadeeth accepts islam with clean mind. how many example do you want.

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by india salute on Feb 17, 2008 11:54 PM   Permalink
Hi Golden,
Please go through all the lecture of Swami Vivekananda in America then you wil come to know about different knowledge..
"vivekananda.net/Lectures.html"

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by Golden on Feb 17, 2008 11:58 PM   Permalink
yes, i have gone through, he said something new and it created a effect there but that too has been made a muchhyped.
vivekananda did not know anyting about islam. he says muslims pray by facing west direction and this itself tells how less he knew about islam.
actualy we face towards Kaba not west. from india it is in west but when i went to pheonix it was in the 30 degree north west direction so we face in that direction.

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by india salute on Feb 18, 2008 12:18 AM   Permalink
Golden,
Little knowledge is dengerous like yours..Swami Vivekanada has gone thorugh all the religion books and he knows Quran better than you..He never mentioned anywhere thsi kind of stateament..
Golden - when you will be going to heaven becoming a suicide bomber?

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by tony HUIDROM on Feb 18, 2008 04:01 AM   Permalink
dear golden give my regards to all suicide bombers in hell when you reach there.it is because of u buggers that islam is having a bad name-u takfiryeen

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by india salute on Feb 17, 2008 11:55 PM   Permalink
Sorry for the typo
"you will come to know about different religion"

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